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[–] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

sadly, i've seen similar sentiment among an unfortunate number of western leftists. the anti-jewish portion of the nazi genocide, despite not even constituting the majority of their crimes, is portrayed as an evil in its own league.

other things, even ones with higher casualty numbers and perpetrated by the same scum, may perhaps be compared to the shoah but never allowed to reach it in terms of cultural significance in the west.

the slavic or romani victims or the political prisoners who suffered the same or even worse abuses in the same camps by the same fascist parasites don't get to be immortalized in western literature or film or music or other arts.

despite the fact, that racism against slavic peoples was (read: is) at the very core of hitlerite ideology, westerners never as much as acknowledge it. instead, they celebrate as thousands, if not millions of slavic people die in a conflict caused by western capital. instead of at least feeling shame for flooding all of those countries with blood, they instead have been spreading hatred and harmful stereotypes to such an extent that they don't even register doing it anymore. i don't even want to mention their hideous lies about the red army.

despite the fact, that the hitlerites successfully exterminated essentially all of the romani population throughout much of western and central europe and came dangerously close to reaching this goal in eastern europe, anti-romani racism seems now to be just as common as life itself.

how come that the suffering of jews is considered the crime of crimes, while everything else the fascists did gets either ignored, excused away or even celebrated?

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 2 days ago

how come that the suffering of jews is considered the crime of crimes, while everything else the fascists did gets either ignored, excused away or even celebrated?

Because the western (and mainly American) bourgeoisie had enough Jews and sympathy for Jews. Not only was this the case before the war, but after the war, there was also the Zionist project to benefit from. Were these factors not present, modern westerners wouldn't give a fuck about the 6 million dead Jews either. They'd only focus on the American/European soldiers who died, the same way they treat conflict in west Asia today.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I've also noticed what you're saying, and it feels so odd to me, because I was definitely raised with the explanation that the Nazis were bad because of their crimes against the Jews, but also that Europe mostly cares about that specific crime because jews are considered European (which is a whole other brainworm in it-self, but I don't want to argue every stupid thing my parents believed). My dad was also way more anticommunist than my mom, so he still thinks that Stalin was way worse than Hitler, or at best, equivalent. My dad also grew up in Apartheid South Africa, which means he used to believe a lot of stupid shit about history.

[–] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

my personal theory is that this new philosemitism among fascists arose because of the nakba. right wingers mostly ignore the difference between the jewish people and israel, and when they saw the settler colony committing genocide, their reaction was something like, "oh my god, they're one of us!"

also, really happy to see you being more based than your family! gives me hope for the country im in right now.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

There's some sort of theistic discrimination going on where people place followers of a religion above other groups. Like believing in some God makes you better than everyone else? I don't get it.

Maybe I need to calvinball a religion if my own so I get the special rights and protections these people have. God forbid we treat people equally