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A lot of this isn't true. There's no cultural confusion. The CPC purposefully misinterpreted a poll for national propaganda reasons. There are no Taiwanese from a Chinese background that believe they aren't from a Chinese background.
From who, the KMT? They should have done that a LONG time ago!! The CPC would have full legitimacy if they took out the KMT before they could oppress the people living in Taiwan at the time. Way too much time has passed. The people of Taiwan really have zero relation to the CPC. All the CPC arguments for why Taiwan is theirs doesn't hold up. "Taiwanese are Chinese" - I guess they own Vancouver now? Or wherever there are Chinese people.
"The war never ended" ok, might is right but your war was against the KMT, who are from China. That's great, continue the war against them. They're all over 80 years old now. What's the point?
"Taiwanese are closer to the evil Japanese (who committed countless war crimes) than us so they are bad" I guess?
"Taiwan has always been a part of China" no it hasn't. Throughout imperial Chinese history Taiwan was seen as a land of disease and barbarians and of zero use to anyone.
I am all for the returning of the stuff that the KMT stole from China AND the people of Taiwan. No I don't like the DPP and how they go along with US propaganda but the alternative is to go full Yemeni and Taiwanese are way way way too comfortable for that.
“Taiwan” in its current political form is the unresolved remnant of a defeated reactionary regime, preserved by imperialist intervention. It is not a neutral “society that drifted away,” but a Cold War client structure built to block the completion of the Chinese revolution. Most of your arguments quietly erase that history.
This ignores a central fact: the CPC did not “choose” to stop at the strait. In 1950, the PLA was preparing for Taiwan operations when the US intervened directly via the Seventh Fleet after the outbreak of the Korean War. That intervention froze the civil war and militarily guaranteed the survival of the KMT regime. This is not speculation; it is openly acknowledged US policy. Without that intervention, the ROC state on Taiwan would not exist. Blaming the CPC for not completing reunification while ignoring US naval containment is ahistorical.
The CPC is not a bloodline or a cultural club. It is the ruling party of the Chinese state that emerged from a popular revolution. “Relation” here is political and historical, not sentimental. The majority population of Taiwan is Han Chinese (with roots generally in Fujian) whose families largely arrived during Ming–Qing settlement or with the KMT retreat. Their language, kinship networks, religious practices, and economic ties are overwhelmingly Chinese. That does not obligate them to “like” the CPC, but it does make the claim of “zero relation” incoherent.
More importantly, this argument quietly treats the KMT state and it's successors as the natural representative of Taiwan’s people, when in reality it was a settler regime imposed under martial law for nearly four decades, during which Taiwanese political identity was violently suppressed. The DPP did not emerge from some ancient Taiwanese nation; it emerged from contradictions within that ROC structure.
This is a category error. No serious CPC argument claims sovereignty based on ethnicity alone. The PRC’s claim is based on state succession and territorial continuity: Taiwan was returned to China after Japan’s defeat (Cairo and Potsdam Declarations), and the ROC lost the civil war. Vancouver was never part of the Chinese state. Taiwan was. Equating diaspora communities under capitalism with a disputed postwar territory is either ignorance or bad faith.
Wars are not annulled by age. The Chinese Civil War ended militarily on the mainland but was frozen internationally, not resolved. The ROC continued to claim sovereignty over all of China for decades, occupied China’s UN seat until 1971, and functioned as a forward base of US military power. The “point” is not personal vengeance against old men; it is the unresolved question of sovereignty created by imperialist containment.
This is half-true and therefore misleading. Taiwan was not always tightly administered, just as many frontier regions in premodern states were loosely governed. That does not mean it was “outside China” in the modern sense. Qing sovereignty was real, if uneven. More importantly, modern sovereignty does not rest on how much an island was romanticized by imperial officials centuries ago. In the modern age it rests on post World War II settlements and state succession. After 1945, Taiwan was returned to China. The dispute since then is not ancient history; it is Cold War geopolitics.
This is a strawman. The serious critique is not cultural affinity but colonial legacy. Japanese rule materially reshaped Taiwan in ways that the KMT later exploited, while suppressing indigenous and working-class agency. Pointing that out is not moralizing about “bad people”; it is analyzing how colonial layers produced today’s contradictions.
Good post thank you comrade. I was surprised to see so much made up speculation on the bear site
Unfortunately not unusual for people to have warped views of China and Chinese matters even in leftist spaces often due to personal or environmental reasons.
Coolusername lives in Taiwan and has understandingly ingested too much green media.
That makes sense so in this case it was a mix of the environment and personal connection leading to a twisted understanding
Don't the KMT want reunification too? Xi is possibly meeting with the leader of the KMT next month after a successful CPC-KMT think tank a few days ago. We will have to wait and see if developments come out of it
I think you need to stop watching green media.