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this shuts down rumors that bethesda will move to unreal engine for ES6

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 32 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

2015? that codebase started in morrowind. and say what you want about that game but it is not a looker. it launched the same year as metroid prime.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't think Skyrim was too outclassed compared to its peers in 2011, given that it was so much larger and doing so much more than a lot of them under the hood. But Fallout 4 came out alongside The Witcher 3, and the difference between the two was night and day. Then of course Baldur's Gate 3 next to Starfield, and I have to scratch my head wondering what the hell Bethesda is doing still running this tech stack.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not entirely out of question that they'll use Unreal for graphics while retaining Gamebryo for gameplay. That's kinda how the Oblivion remaster works. And might be best of both worlds if they manage to make Unreal not suck in terms of performance and don't fall for the photorealism trap

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think graphics are pretty low on my list of priorities for how those games need to modernize. Starfield looks pretty alright in sheer fidelity, but the faces don't animate well, the conversation system is dated even compared to The Outer Worlds doing basically the same thing, and the engine seems (for some reason) incapable of putting together a proper cut-scene.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

Ah to be fair I haven't played Starfield or even watched too many videos. I also didn't like FO4 much so I was pretty much running with the assumption that they hadn't changed much since 2011

Still, they may not need as many engine programmers if they reduce what their in-house engine needs to do. Could free up finances to hire more people to work on the meat and bones of the game. Or they could just pocket the difference and not give a fuck about making a good game, that seems quite likely too.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Todd Howard doesn't know how to make games any other way.

[–] mcforest@feddit.org 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Morrowind? Gamebryo is the continuation of the NetImmerse engine. Development started in 1997 with the first game released in 1999.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 9 hours ago

yeah morrowind used netimmerse, first time bethesda used it.

[–] NachBarcelona@piefed.social 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think Gamebryo (neé NetImmerse) is even a bit older than Morrowind.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 5 hours ago

yeah it's not bethesda's engine. but my point was about where the codebase for the creation engine comes from, and that's the morrowind code.