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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 196 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What baffles me about this whole situation is McDonald's (corporate) role in perpetuating it. It doesn't make sense as a way to squeeze money from the franchises, because the extracted rents¹ don't go to corporate; it goes to Taylor. It's a loss to the franchisee, and no benefit to McDonald's central.

This smells of graft. Someone at McDonald's corporate is getting paid off illicitly.


¹ In the political-economy sense of "rent", not the one that means "lease payment".

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Someone at McDonald's corporate is getting paid off illicitly.

By the values of Corpmurica, that executive is just acting out of rational self-interest.

Isn't our society in favor of fucking over anyone we can for individual profit? Isn't that what we're taught by example to do, lest we be considered an un-American commie?

You can bribe our politicians legally with infinite sums of money to PACs since Citizens United, you think anyone gives a shit about bribing a McDonald's executive?

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Huh? By the rules and values of Corporate America, breaching your employer's trust by taking kickbacks from a contractor would be solidly against the rules.

My suspicion is that McDonald's corporate is not making as much money as it could be, because franchisees are paying Taylor for fake repairs instead of buying more shitty ice cream mix from corporate.

This is not a matter of Good vs Evil. It's one Lawful Evil group getting ripped off by another.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

breaching your employer's trust

Oh yes, harumph I say! Multinational corporations are as honorable as they are trustworthy, and demand that very same honor and integrity from their executive team in their scrupulous business practices, I say!

Honestly though, do you think sociopathic multinationals like McDonald's have a leg to stand on expecting not to attract people that reflect their lack of values? Garbage attracts garbage. Unrepentant Garbage deserves to suffer garbage.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I don't claim to have a solution but one thing that has always bugged me about this. When I award contracts or buy pretty much anything I can't take a bribe of money, but I can take a bribe of effort. It is acceptable for me (I did have this conversation more than once) to straight off tell a salesperson I can go higher on price if they agree to keep prices constant so I don't have to constantly look at them. Or if they agree to do some other time saving measure.

[-] Aloha_Alaska@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I upvoted you because I don’t award contracts, so I have no idea if that’s common practice but I hope your comment gets some visibility and discussion. It’s quite interesting to think about the value of our time or effort and how maximizing those isn’t a bribe, it’s just common sense.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your boss asks you to go to the store to buy something, I don't know a flashlight. You can go to the store that is further away and get a lower price of the store very close and pay more.

For some reason this is different than if a flashlight sales person offereded you money to buy their flashlight.

Bribes of time are fine bribes of money aren't.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This smells of graft.

It IS graft. I've forgotten where I ran into the information but someone tracked it down. Taylors (the machine company) has an exclusive contract with McDonald's Corporate for the machines and McDonald's Corporate receives a portion of the service revenue whenever a Taylor machine is "fixed".

That's why McDonald's is fighting Kytch / helping Taylor.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Oh, so it is just screwing the franchisees.

Well, shit.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Executives who run McDonalds likely also own shares in Taylor. Just like they have a financial interest in paper straws.

[-] nous@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

There is also no loss for McDonald's central, but they have a old and close business relationship with Taylor that they seem to care about more than their own franchise owners.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

It hurts the brand immeasurably, how is that not a loss? Not only does it annoy customers, it causes them to go to other franchises instead. That decreases the value of their franchise, which directly hurts the company.

Long trip, daughter wants an ice cream, I am hungry, pull off the highway and go towards McDonald's, then remember their ice cream machine is probably broken so I go to Wendy's instead. Realize they are running their biggie bag promotion and get like 2 meals worth of food and an Ice cream for like 7 bucks... Why would I go to McDonald's again for fast food if I have the option?

[-] Alto@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I honestly don't understand how they're still around when places like Wendy's exist. Their prices have skyrocketed and the food is mediocre of im being incredibly generous.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 11 months ago

Well, the company was taken over by a milkshake machine seller.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think it smells more of grift.

[-] irmoz@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Graft means hard, honest work. Maybe you mean grift.

[-] techt@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

graft [ graft, grahft ]

  1. the acquisition of money, gain, or advantage by dishonest, unfair, or illegal means, especially through the abuse of one's position or influence in politics, business, etc.

  2. a particular instance, method, or means of thus acquiring gain or advantage.

Well I'll be. TIL!

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, graft is used as a term for things like police demanding weekly payments in exchange for protection, acting like a local gang or mafia, or politicians soliciting bribes. It’s when anyone in an official position abuses their authority in such a way.

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