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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (51 children)

Yup, all those folks withheld their votes, and now Gaza is saved!

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 35 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Blaming the voters would've worked, if it weren't for those meddling kids, too!

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

What state was going to turn if all green party voters voted Harris?

Because you can't name one, I'll proceed to the next point: it's the job of the party to court votes. That's it. They don't have another job. And when they fail in doing that, they've failed in their job.

A party blaming voters is like a sailor blaming the sea. The sea just is what it is. There is nothing any sailor or captain, or person looking from land can do to change the manner of the sea.

The voters are the way they are. You can hate the way that they are, you can wish they were different than how they are, but that doesn't not change them. We told you this in 2023. You ignored us and told us that "the voters just needed to suck it up and vote this way". But the voters didn't, because that's not how voters work. And by resisting calls for the party to change, you are doing the work of setting us up for further failure.

If you are blaming voters, an amorphous blob over which neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has control of: you are a saboteur of the effort to stop fascism.

It is politically illiterate to blame voters. When the sailors in board tell the captain "don't go that way, there are rocks", and the captain says "well the rocks better move, whose fault is it that the rocks didn't move?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago

Libs would rather try to get millions of ordinary people to give up their most fundamental moral principles than ask one powerful person to exhibit basic human decency. They essentially treat politicians like gods, to be followed unconditionally. No form of democracy could ever work with such a submissive populace.

That's if you take what they say at face value, anyway. The reality is a lot of them don't want to pressure politicians about things like the genocide of foreigners because they don't genuinely care. They just have to pretend to for rhetorical reasons to appease leftists. If a politician disagrees with them on something they actually care about, they may suddenly find their misplaced spines. Hard to say how many are like that, as opposed to the ones who are genuinely spineless.

[–] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't expect the people who blindly vote for their favorite color to actually understand what an election is, let alone want to win an election.

They don't care what happens in the oval office as long as it's blue. Like how Biden didn't actually stop the cages on the border, they just ignored it until Trump was in office. And then they pretend to care again as they say all Latinos are guilty of what the DNC chose to ignore.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's not overlook Biden as a senator voting for increased police funding as well as making federal student loan debt harder to discharge while also being more predatory. Politically he's still highly conservative just not AS conservative. At this point any point of conservatism is beyond reprehensible to me.

[–] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I won't overlook it, neither did the people in the 2020 primaries before Biden was forced into the front runner, with the woman who called him out on his racist policies impacting her as a child as the VP pick.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idk about the Greens, but Biden had 6 Million more votes in 2020 than Harris did in 2024. That's a lot of abstainers.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Okay, take another step: how do you get those voters to have voted in 2024?

We're going to run two experiments, @FiniteBanjo@feddit.online , which will both start with the following premise:

It's August 2024, the night before the convention, and you are Kamala Harris's campaign manager. You are just coming off the big bump in polling you got from naming Tim Walz your vp. So far, your polling has been meteoric. You managed to got from the low forties high thirties to high forties in weeks.

You've got 1.5 billion dollars to spend, and a week of captured media going into the convention. You have three months.

The experiment (0, 1) is conducted by you answering the following questions follows:

0 You are not allowed to change the candidates policy positions. Explain how you would use 1.5 billion dollars and 3 months to win an election.

1 You are allowed to change the candidates policy positions. Explain how you would use 1.5 billion dollars and 3 months to win an election.

If you actually answer those in good faith, you figure out how to get those 6 million voters back, and perhaps also understand how to have not lost them in the first place.

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[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

It wasn't gonna get saved by the people that claimed there was no genocide and actively funding it

The options were Gaza destroyed but worst or Gaza destroyed but at least it was a Democrat instead. Not lesser evils when it's still reprehensibly evil.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

The ones who withheld their votes in the same action rubber stamped the construction of Trump tower in Gaza.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Gaza is saved! For Trumps new golf resort!

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