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When George Lucas was filming A New Hope he did not have the notion developed that Vader was actually Luke’s father, and that he only came up with it after the movie was released. There is no actual foreshadowing of this, no hints, and really nothing in A New Hope would even point to this possibility. To say Vader “killed your father” but to really mean “uhhhh I meant the ‘Vader’ persona metaphorically ‘killed’ the person your father was” is such a ridiculous stretch I just don’t get why more people don’t ever call this out. The much more straightforward explanation is that Lucas came up with the idea as a way to build up drama in the movies that followed, after A New Hope was already out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
💯 percent agree, I genuinely believe that Lucas is a bad writer. Only reason the other movies did well is because editor meddling.
Your theory makes total sense except for one thing. "Darth Vader" is essentially a direct translation of "dark father."
He didn't plan Luke and Leia being siblings. Unless he was into incest. There are cut scenes in Empire Strikes Back that show them being romantic with each other. They kiss in the final cut of the film too, but she was just trying to make Han jealous
I wonder if that was selected as a way to resolve the love triangle once Lucas realized that there's a reason romantic comedies usually make one of the members of love triangles villains, or at least don't let the audience get as close with both competers. Shows/movies that do are instead dramas, which are a completely different tone from the light-hearted romance he was going for.
Yeah, it seems like it may have been a way to resolve the love triangle. Of course, Harrison Ford almost didn't come back for Return of the Jedi. I wonder if Luke and Leia would have ended up together in that scenario.
I'm currently rewatching Once Upon A Time. This is a big spoiler for season five, episode 7. Merlin claims the first dark one killed his true love and then we find out that the first dark one was his true love and he was speaking metaphorically just like Obi-Wan about Vader and Anakin. This wasn't a later retcon either cause it's in the same episode. It was the writers deliberately misleading us for a surprise. I think they got the idea from Star Wars. The show references Star Wars a lot
I thought that was an established fact.