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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 48 points 5 days ago (3 children)

the only innocent israelis are minor children and that taylor swift stan account who went to prison. and some of those kids are already participating.

what to do with former israelis will be up to Palestinians. Viet Nam kicked out the vast majority of french colonists, maybe that's a model.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

that taylor swift stan account who went to prison

I have it on good authority that this person doesn't live in Israel anymore so fire when ready inshallah-script

[–] jack@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

what to do with former israelis will be up to Palestinians. Viet Nam kicked out the vast majority of french colonists, maybe that's a model.

Practically, the difficulty is the roughly even settler-indigenous population ratio. French colonies in Algeria and Vietnam never had anything but a tiny minority, relative to the country, of colonizers. Removing them was easy. Importantly, most of them wanted to leave when they lost political control. They only wanted to live in a country where they were colonial masters lording over distant, dark natives. I suspect many Israelis, especially the ones with American citizenship, would skedaddle almost immediately if the Palestinians secured a real state. But how many? What would you be left with? What would the costs of removal of millions of Israelis be to a young, unstable Palestinian state? Would they have the power to actually enforce that?

I suspect many of the most diehard settlers would cling to their holdings like tumors across the territory and act as terrorist cells no matter what. The urban Israelis who have a less active role in settlement would probably be more amenable to political changes if they retained their economically cushy lives, but if that was threatened they could easily turn psychopath terrorists (the natural state of Israelis, after all). If you allow the Israelis political rights when establishing a democratic republic, they'll only vote in counterrevolutionary freaks determined to destroy the entire project; if you don't, you're going to need the state power to repress them.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is possible that there could be a political realignment out of ethnic Palestinian/Jewish lines in a post-Israeli Levantine. The nature of the current settler-colonial project creates a certain uniformity of allegiance within the Jewish population there, but there are tensions simmering under surface. There’s obviously the bias against non-white jews by the European jews there, and the secular jews have a lot of animosity towards the ultra orthodox jews. So I could see a more cosmopolitan/urban vs rural/traditional dynamic emerge, probably with some class elements as well, that doesn’t break down neatly on ethnic lines.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

I don't think I know enough to dive into the subdivisions of Israeli society in useful enough depth to answer you. I think you're onto something about the Jewish population being so fractious that it could split apart at any time, but they're largely held together by one thing: settler-colonialism. If they lose, does that unifying impulse weaken or strengthen? I could see it going either way.

In order to save lives i will volunteer to take a bullet for every guilty israeli

I may run out of sinew and bone by the time its done so use a small caliber