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A lot of committed vegans I know don't sweat over it if mistakes are made on the "vegan" menu. They advise the staff politely, discarding what they can by hand and eating that they can't. Wasting a meal makes a mockery of the point of being a vegan in many ways.
This teenager possibly gets it. Dad is intentionally overdoing it. There is a lot we can learn about how to do better politics here. Perfection is the enemy of the good.
Edit: Obviously allergies and diseases are a whole other thing. There is a reason getting it right is still very important, but if that's the case nobody is messing around, especially not Dad.
Assuming you are willing/qualified to be a spokesperson for vegans:
When you encounter a menu item marked "Vegan" and discover that it isn't, do you often speak to the manager to advise them to either remove the label or change the recipe?
I'm not vegan, but I often (not OFTEN but more frequently that my wife would prefer!) mention menu mistakes to the server/cashier in the hopes of helping a future guest.
I think they were talking about the line cooks making a mistake, not the menu being fraudulent.
Certainly possible!
My wife has a milk allergy. Depending on the ingredient, it can go pretty bad. If they put regular cream in something, she might need to use her EpiPen.
There's no grumbling or clarification that works. The server will almost always write down no milk, no cheese. Half the time, the kitchen will forget, mix up, or ignore it; sometimes, the server grabs the wrong thing from the warmer.
Oh I certainly agree there are people for whom it's serious. That's not this meme.
I have a milk allergy as well. I know her pain.
My I recommend getting into Asian food and trying vegan restaurants? Way less potential for accidents.
Oh we've been dealing with it for a long time now :)
She does a lot of vegan places when she can, when she can't she tries to pick stuff that's unmistakable.
For the most part it's mexican food and subs where she gets screwed, it can be hard to tell crema from mayo and cheese from mayo
Without knowing your location many if not most restaurants in US will only allow allergy meals be delivered by a manager. When I worked Buffalo Wild Nuggets the manager would have to prepare and deliver the allergy meal. It keeps the customers more honest when it isn't just a server taking the blame.
I've never heard of that. It's not a bad idea.
Yeah, US, It's super rare for her to be taken seriously. I don't think we've had a manager come out for an allergy in 8 years now and that was vacation at Disney.
More often, if they try, they'll send the waitstaff back out to complain that she can't have the meal because there are eggs in this or that when she was clear about it being milk, they want to tie it into dairy and for some unknown reason, eggs are considered dairy.
Yeah, why ARE eggs dairy? Just because milk products and eggs are both refrigerated? (in the U.S.)
AI slop has frustrated me in my search to find out. I don't need 100 hastily-generated pages telling me that eggs aren't actually dairy. I want to know why they are in the dairy category!
Best I can tell, and that's not with much authority, the people who made the US food pyramid put them together because they were stored in the same place in the grocery store. And it was the pyramid that was seen as a source of authority. From every other angle the don't line up.
It's likely because eggs are usually found in the dairy section, and people are stupid.
I'm sure that's the case now, but I'm curious why it started. Is that not the case in non-western countries?
I wouldn't think that there's anything about dairy cow ranching that specifically lends itself to also raising egg hens, but I'm no farmer!
It's fairly common in my neck of the woods for ranchers to also have a few chicken houses, but I doubt that's the reason the two are conflated. But my area is one of the major chicken farming areas in the state.
I think it's just people assuming they're related because they're in the same section of the store, but really that's just so they don't have to have a separate cooling setup just for eggs.
Maybe before supermarkets, eggs and milk were the main items being refrigerated in the grocery store. Meat would have come from a butcher until the 50s or 60s, I think? (my back hurts, but not THAT much)
Eggs actually don't need to be refrigerated outside of the US. The reason why we have to is because the government requires eggs to be washed so they lose the protective coating that prevents them from going bad quickly.
Yeah, I alluded to that in my original comment. I don't know if bleaching the shell is an issue other than for storage but it wouldn't surprise me.
It is sad how much we've allowed Agribusiness to decide what we eat and how we live.