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[–] savvywolf@pawb.social -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The dad is making a big show of how much he supports his daughter... Yet still orders chicken?

(I know not all vegans demand others share their diet, but it would be a nice gesture for him to do)

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Would it be as nice gesture if she was to share chicken with him?

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

TBF, her diet was an ethical choice, and his is probably an unexamined cultural default.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

No, her being vegan is a dietary choice. No more or less ethical than being an omnivore or carnivore.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't mean ethical in the sense of her choice being good or bad, but in that people intentionally choose to be vegan because of their ethical belief, as opposed to a cultural preference or a medical restriction.

TBC, I'm not a vegan.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If you don't see ethical differences between killing a live creature and not doing so, your ethical compass is basically non-existent.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

"If you don't see ethical differences between our real faith and other fake religions, your ethical compass is basically non-existent!"

Another evangelical vegan 🙄

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

the question is "why". as in 'why would you kll it" and if the answer is almost any justification (for food, for clothing, for medicine), then it's probably fine. everything dies and if their death serves some purpose, that's good.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 2 hours ago

It's also important to note that there's not a single part of the animal that doesn't get used.

Shit, even livestock that dies before slaughter gets used. Dirty Jobs has a few episodes about it

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 75 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (14 children)

A lot of committed vegans I know don't sweat over it if mistakes are made on the "vegan" menu. They advise the staff politely, discarding what they can by hand and eating that they can't. Wasting a meal makes a mockery of the point of being a vegan in many ways.

This teenager possibly gets it. Dad is intentionally overdoing it. There is a lot we can learn about how to do better politics here. Perfection is the enemy of the good.

Edit: Obviously allergies and diseases are a whole other thing. There is a reason getting it right is still very important, but if that's the case nobody is messing around, especially not Dad.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Assuming you are willing/qualified to be a spokesperson for vegans:

When you encounter a menu item marked "Vegan" and discover that it isn't, do you often speak to the manager to advise them to either remove the label or change the recipe?

I'm not vegan, but I often (not OFTEN but more frequently that my wife would prefer!) mention menu mistakes to the server/cashier in the hopes of helping a future guest.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think they were talking about the line cooks making a mistake, not the menu being fraudulent.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Certainly possible!

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[–] doug@lemmy.today 56 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I remember hearing a dunk on vegans a while back that went “how do you know someone’s vegan? they’ll tell you.”

but in my experience it’s more like “how do you know someone hates vegans? they’ll tell you.”

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Of course vegans will tell you, it’s a dietary restriction.

If you’re even halfway intimate with someone, you’ll likely share a meal or cook for them.

I’m not even vegan, but this particular phrase annoys me hahaha.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Its a catch all punch down cliche for anything where people are trying to improve themselves or the world around them. See crossfit or Linux as other major examples. Its often that they see someone being passionate about something and mocking them for it.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Vegans aren't a problem. Why would you care about what another person chooses not to eat?

Holier-than-thou vegans with pamphlet level arguments they force upon everybody are a problem.

Thankfully there aren't too many of those around. Less than Jehova's Witnesses, at least.

It does seem like America in particular has a cult of people hating on vegans, and I gotta ask; why do you think you're better than them, if you're expressing the same attitude as the worst kinds of vegans?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 26 points 23 hours ago (28 children)

A lot of the vegan haters are uncomfortable with the moral issues with meat consumption and rather than seriously work through their feelings and try to figure out where they stand they just mock those who make them uncomfortable and conflate them to the most annoying of the group.

Very similar to people who haven't worked out their religious trauma hating on even decent religious folks

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like Dad's heart is in the right place.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

He's either trying to help and overdoing it to embarrass her (a responsibility of us dads) or he's overdoing it to support her publicly and loudly (which is good but annoying).

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