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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world -4 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

IDK. Kind of sounds like some shit Russia would do. 😒

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 7 hours ago

Sounds like rubbish Israel, USA and other Nazi states would do.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well Russia didn't do it because they don't have the "fuck you" power that the US has. Russia sucks and is a huge danger, but this is absolutely not the time to whataboutism about them. I really hope you're being ironic, because otherwise it's just providing cover for mass murder.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I mean... there can be two murderous ruthless sadistic powers on earth. Three even! I'll let you choose the third.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I was thinking of China, but I like yours better.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

China is bad, but it's it worse than the these to 3. I doubt it.

The west considers it worst since

  1. It's not an European or white nation, which is technologically advanced.
  2. It's daring to reject European interference.
  3. It is communist.
  4. It is trying to be the next hegemony.

It is bad because

  1. It is a dictatorship
  2. There are a lot of human rights abuse happening in is own country.
  3. It does try to be the next USSR.
[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And whataboutisms do not help either case. They just muddy the water and derail the conversation. If you want to talk about Russia or China, the US fighting this awful war only helps other competing empires. Russia is more likely to carve further into Europe, China is more guaranteed to take Taiwan, and other countries will race towards nuclear deterrents even harder then they were. Many more people are dead and will die because of this path America has driven us into. It is horrific and America needs to be stopped to make everyone safer.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's not whataboutism, it's condemning both and NOT letting the existence of other justify the actions of one.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That's not the way it comes across. It was just as annoying when people did the "what about American imperialism!" when Russia first invaded Ukraine. Timing matters

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The People's Dictatorship of Antarctica

[–] spadeworkandglory@lazysoci.al 2 points 8 hours ago

Greenland! It's soooo obviously Greenland. It all makes sense now!

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

“russia would do” - when you say that to yourself remember that phrase is propaganda. it’s literally some shit the USA did do. Your “IDK” is cognitive dissonance.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

😖

Yes, it's us. We did this. WE'RE THE NEW RUSSIA!

[–] xxam925@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Russia was never relevant. The USSR failed.

It was empire

Then feudalism

Then the advent of the ruling of the mercantile class.

Next will be rule by the people.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Lol. We aren't the new Russia. We're just continuing to be the same war crime committing monsters we've been for centuries.

[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 13 points 12 hours ago

Sounds like some shit the US did do.