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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There is a paradox with safety features that is really interesting: the safer you make roads, the more aggressive people drive. Better breaks led to people tailgating more aggressively. Better crumble zones has led to bigger and heavier cars. It's almost like there is a threshold of risk that people naturally gravitate to and that maybe the best way to improve traffic safety is through education

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So improve safety by replacing airbags with nail bombs?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A professor at my university wrote a book called Navigating Environmental Attitudes, and he titled a chapter, "Educating the Public... and Other Disasters". TL; DR: It doesn't work.

That's why I advocate for a big, metal spike on the steering wheel, pointed at the driver's chest. (Okay, or designing the roads so that they feel unsafe, so drivers naturally slow down and pay attention.)

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I remember reading a study about speeding in neighborhoods. It's not unusual to have people driving 50+ in a 25 MPH neighborhood.

Speed bumps actually caused people to drive faster between the bumps.

What worked was more curves and narrow roads. Essentially making it more dangerous.

So you're not wrong.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I've done the experiments myself. The street that I live on is a rat-run, on which drivers speed through a residential neighborhood with lots of bicyclists, kids, people walking dogs, students walking to school, and the like. The street is ridiculously wide, enough for four vehicles to squeeze by.

So I sometimes park my vehicle on the street. (I bike to work, and most other places.) That visual narrowing of the street is enough to slow them down a bit. The best day was when the people across the street had contractors in, and they parked their trucks on the street while I parked my vehicle on my side. There was still room for two vehicles to squeeze by (and the bus drivers would YOLO it through), but it felt so narrow that most people would stop for oncoming traffic, and take turns through the cataract.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(Okay, or designing the roads so that they feel unsafe, so drivers naturally slow down and pay attention.)

This can be as simple as drawing disorienting lines on the road.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Or choosing a width and windiness to achieve desired speeds, fill the reclaimed space with bike lanes and parking or bus stops or gardens or playgrounds in the widest parts

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Yes. People are much worse at driving now mostly due to phones, but so because they've never driven a miata on public highways.