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What's the consensus on PSL? (The Party for Socialism and Liberation) (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Emmi@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

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Before discovering this community, I was in a different community that proudly calls itself leftist. I posted a documentary; Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang which was very eye-opening for me.

Anyway, posting that started to really upset people, saying that the documentary is PSL propaganda. That PSL is authoritarian, backed by a Chinese Maoist billionaire and that PSL is riddled with sex abuse scandals. That of course PSL would simp for DPRK because it's authoritarian. I was even called a holocaust denier for defending DPRK.

So is PSL bad? Where can I find better information on this? I've already tried looking into PSL and it all seems okay? The sex abuse scandals I am not sure about, is there more information on this? Am I being too critical on this?

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[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That PSL is authoritarian

They're ML.

backed by a Chinese Maoist billionaire

Brian Becker is neither Chinese, Maoist, nor a billionaire.

PSL is riddled with sex abuse scandals

This is endemic to any dem-cent organization in the US. Idk how bad it has been at PSL but its not like a sex cult.

The main issue with the PSL is mostly around tactics. They do protests, they do protests well and I haven't really seen them do much other than protests. They do engage in local political issues but its usually in the form of protests.

The PSL also hasn't been very adept at appealing to the working class in the US. While they are leagues better than most on foreign policy, their rhetoric on domestic issues is severely lacking. Issues like student loans, housing, or medical expenses are rare in their literature. Without a concrete domestic program the PSL is an organization set to be on the right side of history but incapable of influencing that history.

[–] TechnoMaoist@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I just wanted to offer an example of PSL tactics other than protesting: https://youtu.be/7DdPaj_ekrE

Not everyone in the video is a member, but some probably are based on the PSL shirts you'll see.

edit: protesting, not organizing

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

Beautiful to see, thanks for highlighting this.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Trot orgs are notorious for sexual harassment and assault problems. No wonder they have to make a new one every month. PSL on the other hand done a decent (I still expect better from them) job at this.