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People aren't claiming that they love guns, or gun violence. The point is that gun reform is dead for the foreseeable future. And since we are all forced to live in a society with gun proliferation, it makes sense that fascist shouldn't be the only ones with guns.
Yeah, this is just learned helplessness wrapped up in a pretty bow.
What makes sense is dealing with the problem. We can't regulate guns, but we can regulate bathrooms!?
Yeah, I am not buying it. Also, people are claiming they love guns and plenty love war as well. My daughter's coworkers had a spirited conversation about how we should just rip off the bandaid and invade Canada and Mexico.
Clearly there is something wrong with our society and the proliferation of guns is just another symptom that needs to be managed as you would any disease.
Lol, arming yourself against fascist is totally learned helplessness.......
I just think you are either delusional, in denial, or completely ignorant of the state of current affairs in the US, if you think we have any chance of gun reform with the current supreme court.
The people who want to protect fun laws currently hold the Senate, the House, and the Supreme Court which also have a very conservative interpretation of the constituonal amendment that protects firearms. They are also the same people who want to regulate bathrooms.
How do you suppose we enact firearms regulations?
I was talking about the people in this current forum......
Yeah..... No shit. There are literallly fascist running the government.
I would love to live in a society where I don't have to think about gun violence, that would be rad. It's just clearly not the society we currently inhabit, and ignoring that fact does not make you any safer.
You might have the privilege of living in a more civil part of the country. I on the other hand am in an interracial marriage in the most violent and racist state in the union. So excuse me if I teach my friends and family how to defend themselves and build a mutual defence network among other minorities and the queer community.
Pretending you are not engaging in learned helpless is pretty silly as it is obvious you are. Clearly you don't understand what is really going on, and that is okay. Fascism is not new, not even a little bit.
There are so many good solutions to our issues and the fact that you haven't even spent time thinking about them is very telling. Instead you are a reactionary. Guns will never make our society safer, if they did we would be the safest society in the world already.
I have seen the damage gun culture does to the minority and queer community. The needless deaths and violence. Pushed by those who are mentally ill professing perverse defense fantasies created by the marketing department of gun manufacturers.
Just another fascist cog doing exactly what your are supposed to.
And your answer to it is.......?
Funny that you haven't been able to offer a single solution? Or even propose how we achieve better gun laws with our current political make-up.
I didn't propose that it would. I am claiming that it can help protect small communities from the violence that is usually perpetrated by paramilitary groups to minorities in the advent of a fascist government.
I would suggest you read Setting Sight by Scott Crow. It goes through historical and contemporary essays written by successful mutual defense networks that survived fascist attacks.
You have seen the culture of right winged extremist, not "gun culture" from left winged communities.
Its hilarious that you can't distinguish between right winged chud and people defending themselves against them.
Lol, yes the fascist famously want an armed population to suppress...... You are a moron.
My answer is for you to recognize you are full of shit and come up with some real non-reactionary solutions.
You want me to provide you a unique solution to your situation. This is a stupid ask from someone who would just waste my time. Even if I did provide you several solutions you would shoot them all down because you are helpless.
You already have your stupid solution. Guns are going to solve your problems. Getting people killed is apparently a sick way for you to justify your inability to see beyond your own bloodlust.
Gun culture is gun culture. I have seen gay men afraid to leave their partner because they know they will shoot them. We hear everyday of the needless deaths because of gun proliferation in minority communities. Go do the bidding of gun manufacturers. Guns are not going to sell themselves.
Were are a fascist society because we are armed. You are fucking clueless to reality. Just another flavor of fascist pretending they are doing the right thing. Have fun with your defense fantasies and getting people you supposedly care about killed.
Leftist defending themselves against fascist.......clearly reactionary. Do you even know the definition of the words you are using? Was the Soviet revolution also reactionary in your book?
Lol, you could have just said no. I clearly asked what your solution is to enact gun control, you still haven't answered despite claiming there are several easy ways to go about it.
You do know theeaning of self defense, right?
By they, you mean right winged extremist..... Or are you claiming armed leftist are hunting quuer people in the streets? It's almost like there's a clear distinction?
Again, ignoring the point that we are already in that scenario and that is the reason why minority groups require protection. If I could magically disappear every private firearm in the country I would, but magic isn't a solution.
What are you talking about? You do know fascism has happened in countries where most people didn't have access to firearms.
Again..... I don't think you understand the definition of fascism?
Pretty sure you would have called the resistance fighters in france fascists.
You deny you are a reactionary now? This is so rich I don't think I can take another bite.
I already explained I am not going to waste my time talking policy or ideas with a gun nutter. You clearly have done zero research and you have already given up anyways because you are a helpless loser so what is the fucking point.
Self defense is your talking point!? Yes people have the right to defend themselves but arming gays and minorities is not self defense. Have fun with your made-up militia
You clearly don't know what fascism is. Your definition is fascist=bad. That is about your speed.
Again, I think you need to look up the political definition of reactionary.
Taking up arms to defend yourself against fascist is not reactionary politics... Otherwise that would make just about every socialist revolution a reactionary force.
Again, you are being a moron.
Lol, very convenient for you.
Again.... Not sure how you equate self defense to "giving up". I will also again suggest you read Scott Crow's Setting Sights.
You suggest we are going to defend ourselves against neonazi armed with AR-15 with what, hopes and prayers?
Says the boy who claims that anyone with a gun is fascist..... Even if they are fighting fascist.
You are not a reactionary!? You don't want to return to an imagined time before "fascism" took hold of the US. I know it is bullshit, but so are you.
Arming groups of people is not self defense. Arming both sides is a classic US fascist maneuver. You are so fucking stupid I can't even with you.
I suggest you are not going up against Neo Nazi and that you are a fucking fascist yourself. Playing pretend defense fantasy scenarios in your head.
I don't claim anyone with a gun is a fascist as I live in Alaska where guns are tools not props for larping idiots like you.
Lol, I've said several times I'm a leftist...... Which means I want to progress to a socialized economy. You are just lib brained.
I'm guessing you've never heard about mutual defense networks?
Any historical examples you'd like to back that claim with? Or is that another topic where you don't care to explain yourself?
Yeah, It's the socialist who were really the fascist....... Are you having a stroke or something?
Explains your education, did you learn about fascism from Sarah Palin herself or something?
You are about as leftist as my right nut. You ain't fooling me or anyone else.
No, I don't larp defense fantasy bullshit sorry.
You want me to explain to you how the US has armed both sides of conflicts? Yeah hard pass, try reading something other than your gun manifestos.
You are about as bright as Sarah Failing.
Because, I don't think right winged extremists should be the only armed citizens during a political schism? You do know that absolutists gun control isn't a leftist political position? You're just regurgitating the libs.
Again...... I never claimed I'm going to fight a military force like the right winged chuds. Mutual defence networks have historically been utilized by marginalized communities because the police cannot be trusted to defend them from paramilitary forces. The same paramilitary forces that are typically utilized by fascist regimes to do systemic violence against unarmed victims.
Both sidesing every problem is a lib reflex.
Another excuse, color me surprise.
Lol, like a history book? The ones that could explain to you the history of anti fascist resistance groups? Or maybe a book that explains the difference between leftist and liberal?
Because you are not a fucking leftist. I have marched with socialists and fought successfully for people's rights. You are a fucking joke.
You are a gun nutter through and through. I am not going to listen to your cosplay bullshit excuses. You showed your true colors and there is no backpedaling no matter how hard you try.
You are ignorant of history and think the little slice you studied has given you some insight. Here is a wake up call, you have no insight. You are a moron.
All you can do is trot out tired tropes like a one trick pony. I am going to bid you goodbye and I hope you do some self reflection and grow the fuck up.
I have also demonstrated with other socialist, and have successfully helped start unions in a right to work state. What is it about recognizing that gun control is not a going to be a obtainable on the foreseeable future disqualifies anyone from being a socialist? As I have said several times already gun restrictions isn't exactly a leftist policy.
Lol, guns have nothing to do with the economic theory of socialism. Especially when you are in support of the reactionary government achieving a monopoly on violence. Nothing you are claiming is a tenet in socialist theory. I haven't back-pedaled you just have an insane definition of both socialism and fascism that doest reflect political theory or historical reality.
How exactly do you think people have seized the means of production in the past? Even people who still adhere to electorialism on the left recognize that power has never been transferred to the people in a totally peaceful manor.
Again...... You are failing to align your criticisms with any examples or evidence of historical context. You continue to do nothing but make unjustified claims.
Says the person who has done nothing but make rebuttals based on ad hominems... You have had ample opportunity to justify your position with the examples of history you've alluded too. You've had ample opportunity to explain your logic, or even examples of one of the many solutions you claim to exist.....time and time again you've failed to provide any substance to the argument, or even address my rebuttals with an actual response relevant to the argument.
Based on the argument you've put forth the only thing we can conclude you believe is that anyone with a firearm is a fascist, including historical examples of socialist resistance fighters literally fighting Nazis.
Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
Some random not-a-fucking-leftist gun nutter, apparently
This guy has to be trolling, or we've just run into the most American lib brained person on the fucking planet.
Oh look another idiot to block.
He's literally quoting Marx...... Is Karl Marx not left enough for you?