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First renderings show new California city that tech billionaires want to build
(www.sfchronicle.com)
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Americans need to stop embracing sprawl. It’s expensive, terrible for the environment, creates terrible commutes, etc.
I think we should create a global rule that if you want to live far from people in a “rural” setting or something, you must live exactly like indigenous peoples hundreds of years ago.
No technology, just in harmony with nature.
If you drive a truck, you are forbidden from nature. If you want a TV, fridge, modernly constructed house, you can’t set foot into a single blade of grass outside of metropolises.
* sorry if you weirdos want to live like medieval free-peoples, that’s ok as well
I lived in Los Angeles for 10 years. The pollution gave me bad acid reflux, which is actually a symptom we asthma sufferers can have. I moved to a semi-rural place and that reflux went away. So you're basically saying I should either be forced to be ill or live like I'm Amish.
Sure cause we can’t actually have good cities.
The options are bad cities or bucolic countrysides…
If we all lived like you guys do in “semi-rural places” of the USA, we’d be extremely fucked. Like orders of magnitude more than we already are.
That wasn't what I was objecting to. I was to saying I have to live like I'm Amish because I'm doing something for my health.
You can live in a nice city with a lot of parks, good public transit, minimal cars, nice architecture etc.
It’s just a fact we must accept, living in a rural or semi-rural way just won’t be possible anymore. Climate change is really gonna fuck things up way too much and people don’t seem to get that.
If we want to survive as a technologically and socially advanced species and not regress to the Stone Age, we have to give up old Medieval ideals of living in the country-side.
What city would that be and who is going to find me a home and a job?
There’s lots of those in my part of the world, maybe not yours.
But just because the cities around you suck, it doesn’t mean the idea of cities suck. That all cities suck. That we’d all be better off living in semi-rural suburbs or some other American hellscape.
It seems your perspective on this is 100% based on your individual experience and it includes 0 big-picture thought.
I never said that all cities suck. I was talking about the 'anyone who doesn't live in a city has to live like it's the 19th century' thing. I've told you that multiple times. I'm not sure how to be more clear about it.
But how can REALITY get more clear? We’re going through the very early stages of global cataclysm. We will only survive as a social and technologically advanced species if we concentrate in a few small spots, and basically abandon and work to rehabilitate the other 99% of the Earth. For a long long time probably.
I don’t understand how living like you guys even slightly looks like a good idea unless you’re extremely self-centred and don’t give a fuck about the world. Which I guess makes sense, we’re in this shit situation because most people are like that I guess.
Yes, I'm so self-centered to not want to vomit every day. How dare I.
Again, the dichotomy is not “polluted shitty city” and “nice free countryside”. And it’s NOT ABOUT YOU. This is the definition self-centeredness…
Again, my problem is with the "you have to live like it's the 19th century" part. Again, how many more times must I say it?
Everyone should.