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Just say 'No' to TERFs and tankies!
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A faschist with a red flag.
The term origenaly referred to lefties that supported the Soviet Union rolling tanks into nations protesting for democracy.
Modern tankies defend historical "communist" states and their successer states like Russia. They can often be seen glorifying dictators and denying genocides.
Well described, actually. And most of the tankies can be fought with actual knowledge of Marxism and socialism, since they try to pass themselves as all-so-knowledgeable of them and then spew the worst kind of misunderstandings of the socialist theories. Pseudo-intellectual edgy teenage-minded dumb-dumbs, in a nutshell
I discovered you can score extra points where you deconstruct their argument to the point where they'll call you a "debate pervert" and ragequit the fediverse
Thing is, they'll have so much unread communist literature around their home they're bound to come back. Much easier to jump back into the bearbubble than read those big, big books
You don't even need the big big books. All you need is both Marx and Engels to knock their bad understanding out of them.
My favorite cope that they invoke is that Lenin and Stalin's communism wasn't real communism. My tankie, according to Engels, they actually followed the "state capitalism" scenario to the letter, by having the state hold monopoly over the means of production, planning themselves like a corporation and owning the markets, the only difference being that the soviet states did not run on profit. Engels
I love getting fashsplained that I would surely understand Lenin's points more clearly if I only read more Chomsky.
Not really, cause any comment you make towards them, they just deflect and focus on something else.
Like typical conservative agents.. There is no debating with them, because you will never convince them that you are right. that they are wrong, or that there is any middle ground (and even if you did concede a middle ground, it would be their victory) They will just amuse themselves exhausting you, and declare themselves a victor when you give up.
Its literally no different than trying to wrestle pigs in shit.
Only the pig is wearing a red shirt with hammer and sickle on it, while saying Putin is saving the world from Ukraine.
Well put. They're another online cult where you just have to scratch your head and wonder how the hell they came to certain conclusions.
Found the reactionary tankie!!!!!⬆️
The further you travel to either side, you eventually run into the same brand of nuts.
I was on a ChapoTrapHouse post that was saying how it's US's fault that Putin decided to do a genocide in Ukraine.
and then I was told Ukraine should be destroyed at all costs.
They are not the same indeed, they are just fascists too, but in denial about it.
Seriously lemmygrad is bull of people just saying that bullies like Russia would just be happy if we let them take Ukraine cause they clearly want it more than the people lving there. And a few million deaths is just the price to pay for "better" government.
Those people are such scared authoritarian dick suckers who would throw anyone else under the bus if they thought it would make their lives better
Yes.