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Technically retirement age is 65 (might have moved to 67). But don't worry, Republicans have proposed moving the retirement agree to 75. That'd really cut down on the senators past retirement age and they don't even have to retire!
It's got raised to 67 for OASDI already
https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/social-security/articles/the-social-security-retirement-age-increases
But only if you were born after 1960, most of the boomers still get OASDI earlier.
Having a retirement age of 67 should be seen as a complete failure of our society. Boeing did a study that found if their employees retired at 55, then they collected retirement benefits on average for 25 years - dying at 80 years old.
However, those that retired at 65 only collected retirement benefits for ~~2 years~~ 18 months - dying at 67. Basically meaning that for every year you work past 55, you're missing out on 2 years of retirement (working an extra year and also taking a year off your life).
A retirement age of 67 is basically the same as having no retirement age at all. It's just a "fuck you, work till you die."
Edit: Seems like this might not be true
Couldn't this just be an indirect way of saying people with more money live longer? Retiring at 55 means you're pretty well off, retiring at 67 likely means you couldn't afford to retire early. Less money means lower ability to afford healthy food and medical care.
Let's just go ahead and dispense with this nonsense that healthy food is "expensive". The produce section at the grocery store is incredibly inexpensive. You can get a whole single serving meal for $1-3.
This can depend a lot on where you are. If it's readily available to you, it means you live in a well-served community. Not all communities are well-served in this way- food deserts are a thing, you know
Well TIL then, thanks
Maybe it's just my area (very high COL), but the produce section is actually really expensive. $1-3 is an insultingly wrong amount. It's cheaper to get the absurdly priced pre-made salads from my local supermarket than it would be to buy the ingredients individually. Somehow Trader Joe's actually has affordable pre-made salads that are way cheaper than individual ingredients.
Healthy food is expensive as fuck, in both money and time. Neither of which the working class has anymore.
That makes zero sense. How is it possible that it's cheaper to have someone assemble a salad than it is to just purchase the raw unprocessed ingredients?
Where do you live?
A top 10 cost of living city in the US. And trust me, I know very well that it doesn't make sense but neither do any grocery prices right now. My wife and I were baffled not too long ago when it cost literally $50 for pretty basic salad ingredients for a Greek salad. Granted we were making enough for like 8 servings, but I don't even think that included any ingredients for the dressing since we had all of that at home. I know you won't believe me but I'm not kidding.
We just buy the pre-made ones from Trader Joe's for like $3-4 (for two servings) now.
Have you tried buying just enough lettuce for a single salad? or carrots and maybe some fruit? You don't get fresh foods single serve. but the grocery store isn't making a single salad, they're making 20, and they're not paying the same price for those ingredients they're selling them to you for. Those ingredients cost them a fraction of the listed price. Also, I'm a single person household and I eat a breakfast and a mid-day meal. If I want a salad for that meal, I can get the ingredients fresh. In there smallest amount that's like, 6-7 salads that only really stay good for like, 3 days, so I don't buy salad ingredients. That's a potential lost sale, but if they have pre-made salads I'll buy some because it won't wilt before I eat it, so they have another sale from me! I promise, the math works out easily.
...yes? You can buy as much or as little as you want, they charge by weight.
The ingredients are not expensive, the labor is.
Where do you live that you can pluck off a couple leaves of romaine and leave the rest? It's not a butcher where they cut off what you need. You buy a whole head of lettuce. The cost is by weight, but there tends to be a minimum from the size of the food. Do you know how much you get from shredding a single carrot?
What are you a rabbit? You gonna eat a couple Romaine leaves for lunch? You can't eat a head of Romaine over the course of 3 meals? 🤔
What are you a rabbit eating a head of romaine in a day? Throw in some veggies and nuts, it doesn't take a big salad to be filling for me. And I like variety in my meals, not just salad for 3 days. And have you seen the size of a full head of romaine? Not that "hearts of" romaine shit where they pull off the real leafy outsides and definitely costs more. A whole head is huge.
Listen my guy, it's okay to just be like "I guess I was wrong. They brought some good points to explain why raw fresh ingredients do cost more than a premade salad, plus he definitely has even more boring ones that he didn't bring up because it's unnecessary. I don't need to latch onto the eating habits he mentioned to turn the conversation away from my incorrect assumption."
No one is making this shit up. You've had 3 people tell you how they personally have bought both options and found that buying pre-made is cheaper. Your incredulousness doesn't change that. I've worked in produce departments in years past and I understand both the ordering process/prices and the how the labor is actually spent in making those salads. Your inability to comprehend is a you problem.
My God, what an arrogant twat. Goodbye 👋
I mean, if they can somehow move retirement to 75, they’ll absolutely use that as a justification to kill social security.
Isn't that like, longer than our average lifespan?
Pretty sure that's like early 80s or maybe late late 70s. So you can have a few years to enjoy your retirement at least. What a deal, right?!
It'll be nice to have time to enjoy my hobbies that I'm too rickety for and to spend time with my family that's dead
That's the point, you work and pay for a dream of not working and before you can collect you die.