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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 140 points 10 months ago

I wonder what they see when they watch Star Wars. What do they think the Rebellion is fighting for? Who do they identify with? What parts do they think are cool and for what reasons?

It's a bit like conservative Star Trek fans. I'm not going to gatekeep, but I really wonder what they see in it.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 117 points 10 months ago

This is what went trough my mind when Elon Musk called star trek the best tv show.

I literally cant come up with a show that is more fundamentally woke.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago

Yeah I think it’s really easy to brush aside how big of a statement the very existence of Uhura was. This was the 1960s and a black woman is being portrayed in a position of leadership on a space ship and it’s not a thing in the canon. Her gender, race, and country of origin are irrelevant to the star fleet, she’s an expert of communication, and so the enterprise is glad to have her. Then you’ve got Sulu who is canonically an Asian American played by a Japanese American who had been interred during the world war not all that long ago.

In a time of political, racial, and gender unrest this series pointed to a future where those fights for equality and liberation not only were past and won, but so far so that it would be strange for any of the protagonists to imagine the other side. A world where anyone could become a starship captain like Kirk.

Next apartheid Clyde is gonna say he’s been a lifetime fan of the twilight zone…

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How is Uhura not canon? The show defines canon by definition, by what other source do you define it?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Sorry, not a thing as in no big deal, not as in not present

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Wow, that's some pretty weird language I'm not familiar with. But OK I'll agree to that. In fact I'm from Denmark, and I never knew it was a thing until the Internet became a thing. It always seemed perfectly natural to me that she was communications officer.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah I’m a millennial so it was never weird to me either, but this was a show that Martin Luther King Jr was watching. It had the first ever interracial kiss on television. Race relations in America in the 1960s were really bad. I didn’t understand the significance until I learned about why they so consciously had a multiracial cast and why they specifically put women in roles of leadership.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago
[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Apparently he means it's a presented as a non issue.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

He also loves the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. He doesn't realize he's most like Zaphod Beeblebrox or what that says about him.

I wish Douglas Adams was still alive to tell him where to get off.

[-] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

He also said the movie Parasite was his favorite film. I think he's the kind of person that narrative and metaphor are lost on. Rather a vapid blank slate, that poorly regurgitates the last chalk image left on its edifice.

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Either elon hasn't seen star trek at all and doesn't know what he's talking about, thinks its a sci-fi space show or just has a really ficked up twisted mind that twists the show into what he percives it to be

Star trek is meant to show Gene Rodenberry's version of a better humanity that is primarily set in space

Star wars is a space opera that includes exploring timeless issues, well atleast it was until disney took over and didn't get the point to that at all and just replaced it with something else entirely

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Sociopaths don't really form their own opinions. They pretend to like whatever will ingratiate them with their target group of people. Elon wants to foster his techie pseudo-engineer image, so he picked a show that skews to that demographic.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

It’s a bit like conservative Star Trek fans.

That one's easy. It's a show about a bunch of people who are absolutely certain about the superiority of their own ideology, assembled into a military hierarchy that goes completely unquestioned and where everybody's happy to work without pay, traveling around the galaxy in a heavily-armed ship preaching that ideology to everyone they come across, who are nearly always portrayed as more primitive and limited than themselves.

[-] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I wonder how many of them saw the episode(s) where it explains why they're happy to work without pay lol

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The usual assumption is that the Federation's money-less economy is due to advanced technologies like warp drive and replicators, and that those technologies in the future are the result of capitalism in the present.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

But were they wrong?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Guns go pew pew, spaceships go zoom zoom.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 23 points 10 months ago

"Rebels mean gobermint bad. Liberals are the Empire."

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

JFC....you're probably right.

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

They probably think the rebellion is them in their infinite stupidness

[-] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

I mean, just look at the picture - the one kid is into Star Wars. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd never watched it themselves.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

If you think that’s fun, try walking a “Wolverines!” shouting Red Dawn fan through who the “Soviets” are when the US invades Iraq.

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