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I find grass so useless. Every boomer parent I've known is just obsessed with it, too. They think that not having a green, green monoculture lawn means you've failed morally or something, and that it's how they show the neighborhood how responsible they are. One GF's dad came over to our random Winconsin lawn of grass and weeds and strawberries and was "I WOULD JUST PULL THIS ALL UP AND START OVER". Uh.... no?
Then I had an across the street neighbor (guy with a bumper sticker "I've never seen a FLAG burned at a GUN SHOW") who would mow his lawn every single day with a riding mower. You couldn't even tell what part he had done yet. I went out of town for two weeks and he rode over and mowed my lawn. I left my backyard just go and it was awesome... after a few years, birds started nesting in the middle of the prairie, and I had flowers growing I'd never seen anywhere else.
They all seem obsessed with plastic grass now which is even worse.
My garden is mostly weeds. Haven't cut it in 15 years. I pretend to be a trendsetting wild gardener, but really I'm just a lazy bastard.
Did you sue? I'd have been livid enough to try to sue. IANAL, but at a minimum I would hope that would be trespassing.
Some places have bylaws on maximum lawn height and you can actually be fined for letting it go. That's how insane people are about lawns.
I thought it was virtually all places. I'm surprised the other guy could even let the lawn go native.
Not everywhere is in an HOA. And many people allow native vegetation on purpose to give local wildlife something to eat (see OP).
I mean that's probally overkill, that person was either OCD or was thinking he was doing them a favor. That sounds like a great way to have a pissed off neighbor and a potentially hostile neighborhood
I'd feel a little different (still pissed) if it was a next door neighbor who extended their mow. But to cross the street and change someone's property without permission is already hostile to me.
I doubt that I could have demonstrated real harm, or even proved that he did it. I got back into town a week later and my brother, who had been watching the house, said "huh, the guy across the street mowed the front yard".
By the letter of the law it probably is, but if they hadn't expressly been told not to it won't go anywhere.
I think he thought he was doing me a favor, but really was just jerking off his lawn obsession. Same guy told me one time "HEY i saw a bear in your driveway and I was gonna come run it off so it didn't mess with your garbage but it left!" I was uh, okay... no, please don't come confront a bear in my driveway. Dude drank light beer all day.
It seems like people used to suburbs see that as the pinnacle of life but of course that's not true.
In my experience rural areas get it because they are farmers and beekeepers with an understanding that working with nature is the way to go
I'm 52 and hate mowing yards. Most other people my age are also obsessed with their lawns or simply "enjoy getting out and working on the yard"
There few things worse than doing yard work. I think dying is one of them, maybe.
Anyways, yeah we have a yard. We try to keep various bushes and wildflowers as we can. We go as log as possible in early spring to not mow and get all the clover and stuff to bring the bees and like insects over.
As for mowing, I pay someone 50 dollars every 2 weeks to keep it not looking like crap.
My father-in-law, who lives with us, used to do most of the gardening and lawn stuff. He is too old now to do any of it. He's always trying to get the rest of the people in the house to do stuff in the yard. I keep telling him "you know you are the only one who really gives a shit on how 'nice' the yard looks. My only goal is to keep the city and neighbors off our back, that's it.'
EDIT: Also neighbors seem intent on having a single uniform grass breed and obsessed with having no weeds. Nah, I have all the grasses and weeds. I have a neighbor down the street who is always just HAND PULLING weeds out of her lawn. Like hours and hours of it. I mean.. wat
It seems to be something that retired people love, to keep them active and give them something to do (a sense of purpose besides grandchildren?). I don't mind yardwork myself, but I don't feel like it's virtuous or something. I also understand that a chemical-sodden monoculture isn't really the best for humans and wildlife.
My mother used to try to get us... oh, she still does... to come "PULL WEEDS". As kids it made sense, like okay, she wants us to get away from the video games and be outside and do whatever she's saying, but at this point...
I get it as a dog owner with only a courtyard. But he goes on long hikes in the bush and big walks a few times a week. It'd be nice to give the little fella a patch to hang on while I'm at work. And I mean a patch—I hate mowing and any yard work motivation in me is for citrus, chilli, and grapes.
Dogs will happily lay in high grass.
There is the risk of tick transmission of Lyme disease in tall grass. I suppose you can pretreat to prevent contraction, but mowing grass means you don't have those threats/hazards to worry about.
I still hate lawns and wish more would be native, but I wonder if there's a way to grow a native lawn such that you invite the good wildlife and keep out the bad. Would need a biologist to chime in
One of the 10 plants in this article would work. And one of them is bound to be native to your area.
My dog loves tall grass so much. He likes stomping them.
My yard was very low with ground cover. I actually did mow the front, I just didn't care if it was grass or a bunch of random other plants. I had a dog when my gf lived with me, but at this point, didn't. There were so many rabbits and deer I actually just grew my vegetable garden on the front porch in containers.
i never understood why american front yards dont have fences. just a barren wasteland of green from the curb to the front windows. fence your garden in!
Many do, but it really depends on the area.
That guy was an asshole for doing that to you. I wonder if that might be considered trespassing. Dunno if you can have any civil remedy served to you, or if it's even worth it, but still sucks.
How tall did the grass get? Did it pollinate, and if so, was it noticable for allergies? Were you still able to walk through it?
I'm wondering what sort of plant you could let grow where you could still walk through easily. Maybe clover?
Low height ground cover type plants grew naturally there. Clover, alfalfa, strawberries, unknown other plants, with an occasional thistle. Larger plants (whatever they were) would grow on the periphery. When he mowed my lawn it was maybe about a foot high.
We were surrounded by acres of forest where plants grew wild, so if there was a problem with pollen, it wasn't the .4 acres of my front lawn. Myt front lawn, I did mow occasionally. The back I let grow wild and yes, one could still walk through it.
One of the lame things about lawn is that people don't let them go to seed. If grass goes to seed, it not only regenerates itself, but also provides food for birds and squirrels. I was on an acre and a half across the street from this guy, and bounded by 30 feet of trees on ones side and 200 feet of forest on the other.
Aren't these allergies sometimes caused because you're not exposed to the stuff? Like how it is for peanuts.
I don't know, but I wouldn't want people who come over to cough uncontrollably even if I was used to it.
do you have kids? they love playing outside. barefoot. and a nice lawn is a paradise for bare feet. not to mention the actual process of mowing (electric mower) is very peaceful and good for my mental health. super therapeutic.
Sure, but we also want those kids to have food when they grow up, don't we?
hot take: you can have bee gardens AND a lawn
Or you can have a clover lawn, which is nice for insects as well as kids.
Kids don't dislike long, unkept grass either, as long as you keep the thistles out.
seems pretty naive to think that it’s joe homeowner that’s the problem, and not insecticides and fertilizers from mega farm corporations like monsanto. let me know where to mail my apology letter lol