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this is why i don't go outside and i'm only engaging with the topic here and by watching hasan do coverage
I tried to broach the topic with a friend. They immediately cited someone in their professional group on Facebook who lives in Israel and gave the line about beheaded babies. I said it was completely unfounded and no evidence and they responded with “people didn’t believe the holocaust at first, either”. I tried explaining more but when you’re dealing with someone who really has no understanding at all, all that explaining you have to do, to them it sounds like you’re out of your mind or something. So that was fun.
Edit: I feel like this gave me an insight to how a lot of Americans see this. They just passively hear “terrorists”, “killing concertgoers”, “babies”, etc and they just clutch at their pearls and then go back to whatever they were doing. Anyone who actually understands the issue is suspect.
Edit 2: I hate Facebook with every fibre of my being. So many people I know will literally believe anything they see there if it’s from some group they’re in. I mean Iove you all but I still try and fact check things here.
dude the fucking beheaded babies discourse. That bit came from an unverified report from some random unnamed IOF soldiers, and every fucking liberal is weaponizing it to justify the continued onslaught on Gaza
It’s out of control how this is becoming the narrative
i'm seeing lib/left-leaning friends of mine sharing posts on Instagram essentially saying that defending violence of Palestinians towards Jewish Israelis is how we get the next holocaust, of parroting the beheaded babies bullshit to justify this argument... But they ignore the openly fascist rhetoric of Israel officials and the decades of state violence committed by Israel on the +2 mil Palestinians entrapped in Gaza, which arguably meets the definition of fucking a concentration camp.
Liberals: They killed babies! Now please ignore the fact the IDF has also killed babies in the past and right now with carpet bombing!!!
whataboutism, just cos the IDF did it doesn't make it ok, silly tankie don't you know the difference between when good guys do things and when bad guys do things /s
This has been my line.
First of all all the reports of this kind of thing are coming from sources like "the Jewish chronicle" whose entire website is full of articles about how great Netanyahu is, but setting that aside even if the absolute worst reports are true until Hamas gets custom t shirts designed and printed bragging about killing Israeli babies Hamas still has the moral high ground.
:yeonmi-park: In Israel, Hamas is killing babies by destroying their incubators
yeah, the amerikkkan coverage of this has been somehow more full-throatedly pro-Israel than Israeli media's own coverage. it's incredibly disturbing
I feel like people hesitate to even think socially unacceptable thoughts in the privacy of their own head, which is why atrocity propaganda works so well. it shuts down people's brains, because questioning a narrative that terrible is socially unconscionable.
*if they're not too racist, then it sometimes works to say something like "yeah, it's horrible, but rage like this is inevitable when [describe conditions in Palestine]" because then you are countering one atrocity with another and it gets the brain working again