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White House: Russia is executing soldiers who refuse to follow orders (www.reuters.com)

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 28 points 10 months ago

Not defending Russia, but I believe most militaries have rules on the books saying that field executions for disobeying orders are a necessary part of war.

So the big story here is that Russia is exercising those laws whereas most countries don't, but on the other hand most countries don't get involved in land wars in Eastern Europe either.....

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not defending Russia, but I believe most militaries have rules on the books saying that field executions for disobeying orders are a necessary part of war.

The last time western powers seriously used this was WW1. WW1 was quite famous and hated exactly because of the flippant use of executions of soldiers who weren't willing or able to follow horrific orders. After that you'll find a hard time to find examples. Especially after WW2. I certainly haven't heard of a single US soldier for example who was executed in the field in Iraq or Afghanistan nor any death penalty even when found guilty of serious charges against them like Abu Ghraib.

So yeah, no. Russia isn't just doing what every other military is doing as well.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

In the past, maybe. In the modern world I doubt it. But from Russia I'm not surprised, they have a habit of disregarding life for quite a long time.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 10 months ago

The laws are still there

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_the_United_States_military

Desertion, willful disobedience. Both capital crimes in the military

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 10 points 10 months ago

Yes but at least you will get a trial and not just "go to die at the front or be executed right now"

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Do they also get a trail during wartime?

[-] nelly_man@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Yes. The last person that the United States executed for desertion, Eddie Slovik in 1945, was tried in a military court, found guilty, and executed.

I assume that Russia would have rules for the same. Whether they are followed is the question.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 6 points 10 months ago

But it's a special military operation, not war 😉

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