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Some light genocide
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Which centrists actually support any amount of genocide?
Plenty of centrist liberals support Israel's "war against Hamas". US president Joe Biden and the Democratic party for example.
that has nothing to do with the ideology of centrism itself and would be ridiculous to even pretend so.
it has to do with the complexity of the situation, and more specifically for everyone supporting Israel, having to do with maintaining country relations moreso than the edit: humanist ideals unfortunately.
Jewish Democrats? Christian Republicans?
If specifics are needed, Tim Pool (like most of these people) claims to be centrist... Yet always fails into line with the right on everything.
Ah, Tim isn't that bad, a guy doen't think he's a centrist is probably very, very far left.
You're right on half of that, but on what issue does he meaningfully align with the left? Like I said, he seems to fall right into line with the right on everything - outside the shallowest veneer.
I'm a centrist - both sides are bad - exclusively lists things the Democrats are doing.
I don't support the Republicans - but agrees with everything they're doing.
It's a great way to feel as though you've risen above partisanship and form your own opinions like a special smart boy - as you're led straight to right-wing positions on every issue.
Haven't listened to him in a long time, but he definitely did not use to align Republican, disagreeing with Democrats horseshit isn't the same thing.
He certainly shifted right over time, but I don't think he could have ever fairly been called a centrist.
Disagreeing with the Democrats doesn't make you right-wing (I disagree with them on most things because I'm pretty far left - condemning the Democrats exclusively (other than the vaguest possible 'I don't agree with the republicans) while near-universally agreeing with the positions of the GOP makes you right-wing.
Is he exactly agreeing with what they say or what they do? Unfortunately that's a real big difference.
All of the above.
Can you name anything Pool has agreed with the Democrats on (and disagreed with the conservative/reactionary/magat line) - words or actions in the last 2 years?
I'm sure we can find something - but you could say that if most conservative voters. The relative difficulty proves my point.
I know, in the past, he has voiced supply for common sense gun control. Is that no longer true?
You tell me.
That is the most misleading headline ever. (yeah ok he leaned into shock value in his first statement) Ive noticed something over time. You know who thinks gun control works? useless people. People that actually think a gun is complicated and banning them works. It's the current year and they, with all the power of the internet search engines, don't realize there are people out there that built a functioning rifle at the age of 12, pre internet, because they were bored. Colour me shocked that people think a Tim Poole video like this is far right, it ain't. Far right is fascist bootlick uniform types kecking in doors relying on numbers, far left is apparently crying a guy unimpressed with the tranny movement, isn't a far left retard, must align with fascists. get a gun, you might need it.
He opposes abortion rights, doesn't he. Dead kids don't matter, but owning a gun is more important than losing bodily autonomy and taking on a lifelong responsibility. You're choosing to defend this transparent grifter.
What's your guns and far left/right schizo posting (you really got unintelligible at the end there) got to do with Pool obviously being a right-winger a centrist? No matter - Gun control works just fine - why do you think the US has one of the highest rates of gun death in the developed world - particularly compared to Canada? Is homicide baked into American genetics or something? This isn't a values statement - it's a factual one. In the US specifically, I'd like leftists to own guns so they're somewhat able to defend themselves when the right abandons democracy and start following through on their genocidal rhetoric.
If being shown very simple evidence contradicting your weird defence of your parasocial big brother prompts this kind of response from you, I'd strongly recommend seeking some support. I'm going to block you now - I don't wish you harm, and continuing to embarrass you might do just that. Be well, my dude.
Let's hear you defend abortion after this. I'm pro choice but i would just love to hear you try defend that position after this one, without..... embarrassing yourself
Also, which leftists don't support genocide? They might not support a genocide, but they definitely support genocide.
*source needed
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"Mangeons les riches" -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
More comprehensively perhaps here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
Of course if you define "leftist" as meaning "doesn't support genocide" amongst other things then obviously leftists don't support genocide. But that doesn't seem to be the actual real world definition.
edit Oh and of course there's Hamas. Left is unabashedly supporting the genocide of Israelis.
Such stupidity - examples like state capitalist, single-party China is about as communist as the DPRK is democratic. Want to bite the bullet and link capitalist genocides?
Be less dumb - please.