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You know exactly what that really means
In case someone is on the internet for the first time, virtually nobody says it's not okay to be white, so saying this is pushing the idea that black and brown people asking for basic rights makes them the real bad guys. Y'know, for making us feel bad about the things we've done.
I do. ☹️
I assume that's a joke link, but it's broken for non-kbin users.
And I even copied the original link, not the kBin one.
No, though. That is not a joke. I earnestly maintain that "it is not ok to be white" and I advocate the abolition of the category.
The link is to another post in this thread, itself containing outside links.
Oh, okay. It looks like kBin might be having issues.
I assume you don't mean the skin colour like everyone else does, though, but rather the social construct. Race isn't biologically real, eventually we're going to go back to socially realising that like we did pre-1600, and I agree that that's good.
If you do mean the skin colour, thank you for being the weird internet exception that proves the rule.
That's also what racists mean when they use the dogwhistle "It is ok..." though.
It’s comments like this that make me think of the old adage: “Never wrestle with a pig because you'll both get dirty and the pig likes it.”
Oooh, I like that one. The Mark Twain "Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you on experience" is also good.
There’s nothing wrong with being white
But stuff like “white pride” is unequivocally racist, and this stuff is like a gateway/dogwhistle to that.
You can say you have American pride, or French pride, or Ukrainian pride, and all of those point to specific cultural achievements or things. “White pride” doesn’t really, it has a long history of thinking that whites are better than other races.
This is a really well-put description. Having pride in the color of your skin is fucking stupid and applies to everyone.
Pride is for achievements.
Skin color is not something anyone achieved (and no, paying for aesthetics is not an achievement either).
How so? Can you elaborate? I am white and don’t feel as though anyone is oppressing me because of that fact.
I'm white and queer. There's only one of those characteristics that gets me abused, threatened and made to feel uncomfortable and it's not white.
So I know this isn't going to be popular, but... I lived in Saudi Arabia at 14. White people were targeted for kidnapping and rape continually, and no, not only women. Men too.
I myself was very close to having both happen multiple times and escaped by pure panic and luck. My father and I were nearly killed by police with assault rifles because they wanted a bribe from my Dad. We were forced to drive into the desert at gunpoint to a "second location."
This was not unusual for the expats.
I also went to school in Cincinnati and had the shit beaten out of me multiple times because I was white.
Racists no matter who they are racist to are fucking gross and I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. Please don't think your experience applies worldwide though. Being white, gay, black, brown, trans, or damn near anything in some places is fucking dangerous.
Ditto. Usually when I realise I'm white it's because other white people are being dumb and out of touch and I'm embarrassed by them.
Caucasity is a hell of a way to wake up to the realities of race in this country
Caucasian+audacity, in case anyone else is unfamiliar with the term.
Why? Having correlary traits in common with someone doing something dumb isn't embarrassing.
Andrew Tate doesn't make me embarrassed to be a man, he's just embarrassing himself (and anyone who chooses those views are doing the same). We are individuals.