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English rule (media.beige.party)
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[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 126 points 11 months ago

"pretentious dick" isn't a race.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Love how they just call everything racism

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Except actual racism, that's fine plus it happened so long ago stop bringing it up

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

One european nation disliking the other: racism

Actual racism: is fine

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

Well of course...its racism against white people. By other white people. Which is the worst kind of racism, apparently.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Truly the definition of racism

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 11 months ago

Racism can easily include ethnicities/nationalities such as English and Scottish. The difference doesn't even have to be real considering race as a whole is largely a social construct once you get past the melanin.

Just look at the Irish being excluded from "whiteness" in the 19th century.

Hell, it's in Britain, and there's Old English uses of the term "races of men" that use race to basically mean tribe or clan.

Would it make you feel better to call it "clannishness?"

All that said, I don't think this is the kind of racism, the expression of nationalistic grudges, you need to bust out the placards and start marching in the streets against.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The thing is I consider what you described xenophobia not racism. Racism is purely based on skin colour

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

So Brits cant be racist towards the Irish then?

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The way I see it no. They can be xenophobic and hateful but that is not racism per se.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

This is literally about the nationality of a person (being British). Maybe racism isn't the best word, but it's certainly discrimination.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lol, it's an individual in their field trying to give a friendly warning to a person who is too entitled to even try to understand the local dialect (not even different language!).

No one is being discriminated against, clown.

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He is speaking Scots though. You can start arguments saying it isn't a language.

[-] force@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

this isn't scots writing, this is someone who is probably not scottish trying to represent scottish english with text

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Jfc with the semantics and completely missing of the point.. It's considered by many a dialect of English and should be understood by other English speakers without too much trouble. There, is that better? 🙄

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

the semantics

Ironically enough, you don't seem to know the meaning of the word.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah no, try listening to someone that actually speaks Scots and tell me is easily understood.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There are tons of German dialects I would have trouble understanding as a German. Saying it's entitled to not be able to understand something like that is just far from reality if not ableist.

The picture is just a joke about the cultural hate of Scottish people against British people due to the history of these nations. It's not made to be taken seriously, but if you do… of course it's discrimination. I mean not the joke itself but what happens to the character in the joke. Like lol, it's literally because they are British. Trying to deny that is just ridiculous.

[-] theFibonacciEffect@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

But it clearly isn't easy to understand the local dialect. And the other person doesn't even try to make himself be understood, eg by speaking slower.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

British people have such the thinnest of skin. Americans have been the center of European jokes for so long and most of us just nod and agree. But British? Like bro, you guys stopped Scottish independence and when they pass positive trans bills y'all get into a hissy fit and fucking step in and stop it. Maybe stop being such fucking dicks first about and maybe the jokes will stop.

[-] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

English. Its the English. It's always the English. They ruined England!

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Like bro, you guys stopped Scottish

They literally voted not to themselves.

Americans have been the center of European jokes for so long and most of us just nod and agree. But British?

yeah the British are famous for not going along with banter and you should definitely take this one dude on lemmy as a representative example of the entire country.

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

They kinda are tho. No way to piss off a br*t faster than saying anything critical of their empire

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Your average Brit really does not give a shit

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're prob right I was just thinking of British r/196 users

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I… am not British? Why would you think I am??? lmao

I don't even have anything against the joke; it's (kind of) funny and just a nod about the cultural hate of Scottish people against British people due to their nation's history. I was just telling that if you take it seriously (which it's not supposed to), it is discrimination. (I mean not the joke itself but what happens to the character in the joke.)

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago
[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

The English people are an ethnic group and nation native to England, who speak the English language, a West Germanic language, and share a common history and culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people

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