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[-] Blackmist@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's a wealth tax we need. 10% a year of everything over $100 million. Yeah, bitch, I'm including all your motherfucking shares and property as well.

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think you need to be careful with a wealth tax because it will just make millionaires "move" to the US but still do business here. Under NAFTA they can live in the US and only pay US taxes while working here, except for services where GST must be charged.

It'll also really fuck up the TSX because the TSX does not see 10% gains, so we would lose a lot of capital for our business and reduced value of our pension funds.

Not saying no wealth tax, but wealth tax is complicated and the amounts need to be well considered for their impact to the economy.

Edit: forgot I wasn't on the Canada instance.

This applies to Canada doing wealth tax specifically, if everyone coordinated and closed loopholes wealth tax could be realistic, it's a cooperation game.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Two counterpoints:

Norway implemented a wealth tax and millionaires didn't move. It still has one of the highest rates of millionaires in Europe.

France implemented a wealth tax and millionaires moved causing them to make less than if they hadn't implemented it. They repealed said tax after 2 years.

Wealth taxes can work if done right. Done wrong and they do leave.

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

For Canada specifically I could see the situation being like France because we have NAFTA -- I'm assuming France can't simply do this because a millionaire could move to Luxembourg or the Netherlands and still be in the EU.

[-] Bfcht@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 months ago

Not sure about France wealth tax specifically, but the EU has always had a huge problem with taxes being uneven, especially stuff like corporate tax, with smaller countries "stealing" companies from the bigger ones.

This year a minimum of 15% eu-wide was introduced to stop the tax race to the bottom, something similar could and should be applied to a wealth tax.

[-] Kalkaline@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

Fine, let some other country have their population exploited for labor, put an import tax on their products, we'll survive just fine.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Right?? Let the leeches leave! Capital means fuck all when it's all only for them.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Edit: forgot I wasn’t on the Canada instance.

Fucking CanadaDefaultism. I expected better from you guys. You truly are just Americans with moosephilia. How aboot you kick yourself up the ass buddy, eh?

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 8 points 8 months ago

My most sincere apologies! Our government has deemed I shall be set adrift on an ice floe, with only a Tim Hortons duchie, a double double, and a hockey stick as punishment.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

No, we need to tax the poor to the death and all the problems will disappear over time.

[-] force@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

ah, so the texan solution, i see

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Doing consumption taxation, so Only Save No Spend.

Then creating huge loop holes for consumption that only the upper class can access, so we put downward pressure on the value of labor relative to the value of amassed commodities and capital.

this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2024
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