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submitted 6 months ago by ZeroCool@slrpnk.net to c/moviesandtv@lemm.ee

“It’s so hard to get movies made, and in these big movies that get made — and it’s even starting to happen with the little ones, which is what’s really freaking me out — decisions are being made by committees, and art does not do well when it’s made by committee,” she added. “Films are made by a filmmaker and a team of artists around them. You cannot make art based on numbers and algorithms. My feeling has been for a long time that audiences are extremely smart, and executives have started to believe that they’re not. Audiences will always be able to sniff out bullshit. Even if films start to be made with AI, humans aren’t going to fucking want to see those.”

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 92 points 6 months ago

Well, making a good superhero movie is harder than people think. At the end of the day, studios are risk adverse, and making a woman focused superhero movie is seen as riskier as it is more niche, which means they are more prone to interventions and design by committee, so it is a self perpetuating problem.

Speaking of which, Lemmy plug "Birds of Prey" (also starring some crazy clown woman) here today, in my humble and totally unbiased opinion, it's a pretty fun superhero movie that more people should watch.

[-] 1simpletailer@startrek.website 25 points 6 months ago

Birds of Prey remains the best film to come out of the DCEU and it's a damn shame it's been slept on.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Nah, James Gunn's Suicide Squad blows it out of the water. It's definitely one of the better ones though.

[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

That movie was just fun as fuck. I went in with no expectations, and I came out wanting more Peachmaker, which we eventually got too which is also great.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago

Birds of Prey remains the best film to come out of the DCEU

Starring the best (and also the most humble) actress in the DCEU, too.

[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I thought it was insultingly boring. Sometimes very bad. None of it made sense and the editing/pacing was trash. HQ had some good moments though, and her performance was fun-ish. The Suicide Squad was better by a country mile IMO.

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[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I thought it was worse than that even. It was so bad I turned it off halfway through it was so bad.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

That's an insanely low bar though.

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

I'll have to check that one out. I enjoyed the second Suicide Squad that lead to the John Cena Peacemaker series. That was peak silly superhero to me.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

https://youtu.be/0Uq_5bYGYoY

While we're on the topic of female driven action movies. This one got lost at the box office because it was released in early 2020. Shame, because it's smart and exciting and doesn't follow all the 'revenge' tropes people are used to.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

This reminds me of SALT and The long kiss goodnight, both excellent female lead films.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Long Kiss Goodnight is my favorite Christmas movie.

[-] Mini_Moonpie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Agree on both of those. I also really enjoyed The Old Guard.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I'll have to check that one out.

[-] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago

Atomic Blonde was fun, but Charlize Theron is always great

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago

Thanks for sharing. That looks awesome and I'm going to check it out! Crappy name, though. I'd have instantly given it a pass assuming it was a musical centered around a high school band.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I've noticed that sometimes, somehow, the coolest movies have the blandest sounding titles.

Marathon Man as a case in point.

[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I disagree. Captain Marvel was great. Black Widow too.

And let's not forget all the sci-fi and action movies with female leads: Alien, Kill Bill, etc.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Birds of prey was fucking excellent. And on that note the Harley Quinn show is amazingly fun

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

I like that one, too! It's no dramatic piece, like Dark Knight or Winter Soldier, but it's a rocking good time. It knows what it's trying to be, a silly Harley Quinn and company movie. I wish the little kid was less annoying in the movie, though lol.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

It’s no dramatic piece, like Dark Knight or Winter Soldier, but it’s a rocking good time.

You get it.

But I still wish it did a bit better at the box office though...

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Here is a question for you: is the income of box office so much bigger than sales/streaming income afterwards? Do actors even get money from streams/licensing/dvd sales/whatever?

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