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[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 149 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Anyone who thinks this is remotely possible or a good idea has no idea what healthcare providers actually do on a day to day basis- especially in inpatient settings like hospitals

[–] HaveYouPaidYourDues@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So the question is do the hospital administrators have any idea what healthcare providers actually do on a day to day basis

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When it's gonna cost them $81/hour less per nurse, i don't think it's even gonna matter. They'll let someone else will deal with the fallout

[–] somethingchameleon@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. Everything is a calculated business decision.

They'll look at the laws, the penalties, and do whatever they believe will maximize profit.

Boeing did the same thing when they cut corners and killed over 300 people.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Narrator : A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Woman on Plane : Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?

Narrator : You wouldn't believe.

Woman on Plane : Which car company do you work for?

Narrator : A major one.

Fight Club

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Ford Pinto vibes on this one.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

My spouse is an ER doctor here in the US. The answer is no. They don't buy hospitals to take care of patients. They buy them to make a huge profit that the absolute state of the US healthcare system lets them get away with (private medicine and insurance, not the nurses and doctors working within it, to be clear).

The fuckery those assholes invent that adversely effect patient care for the sake of increasing profit margins is wild and infuriating to watch.

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

They should use AI to help the folks in medical billing.

An AI chatbot that will continually call the insurance company until your procedure gets reimbursed.

[–] 93maddie94@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree that nurses are invaluable and irreplaceable and that no AI is going to be able to replicate what a human’s judgement can do. But honestly it’ll be the same as what our hospital’s “nursing line” offers us right now. You call and they ask scripted questions and give you scripted responses which usually ends up with them recommending that you go in. I get that it’s for liability but after 2 calls for our newborn we stopped calling and just started making our own judgement. But for actual inpatient settings? Absolutely no way. There’s no replacement for actual healthcare providers.

[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Not completely but I'm still worried. For example, a lot of inpatient places now have telemedicine capability, where a camera turns on in patient rooms and someone remotely can talk to people, observe what's going on, put in orders, etc. Some places are using this to reduce the amount of actual on-site people, leading to worse nurse to patient ratios, or (imo) unsafe coverage models for patients who need hands-on care or monitoring. They added on a tele role like this onto my job description over a year ago, and I objected on moral grounds.

If this tech gets off the ground, I can easily imagine the telemedicine human beings being replaced by AI.

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The article is talking about video call consultations with nurses. Read the article or argue the point.

[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

The word "especially" in my comment implies that I was not just speaking about inpatient settings, and which would include these outpatient communication roles. I bring up inpatient because they'd like to replace us there as well.

So learn some reading comprehension instead of being a dick.