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[–] ballskicker@sh.itjust.works 119 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's amazing how dumb this entire situation is. To my knowledge she hasn't even publicly endorsed a candidate or political party, right? Just suggested her fans register to vote?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 148 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans understand that demographics are against them, and their only chance is to whip their base into a froth while simultaneously making it harder for Others to vote.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ding ding ding

Just like it is every election season. Republicans rely on the electoral vote, propaganda, and systematic diseducation (idk if that’s even a word, case in point?) to ensure victories over the populace

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Education" is from Latin "educ" which means "lead out". The reverse would be to lead in, which is "ducere in". So if you want to make a new but old-fashioned word, I suggest "ducereination" or because the "e-i"" syllables are uncomfortable to say and would have likely been dropped over time, "ducerination". The "c" might be pronounced as an "s" or as a "k" depending on how the word would have evolved since ancient times, but I prefer a "k" sound (which I think is the wrong one according to Google) so it sounds like the "c" in "education".

Note that I don't know Latin.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know a goddamn thing about Latin grammar, but it looks like you could follow the etymology of "education" more closely. The "educ" part is itself derived from "ex ducere", so we could probably have "inducation"

[–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Y'all. Did you have your coffees this morning?

There's already an organically evolved etymologically rich word for the "passing of closed thinking", that harkens back to "leading in" or Inducing...

Indoctrination.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. That is all she did. Got them to register to vote. She didn't even hint at who they should vote for. That might change now, and not the way Republicans want.

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Honestly, it's such an incredible own goal. By aligning themselves in opposition to her, Republicans are begging for her fans to vote against them.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct. They've tacitly acknowledged for quite a while that discouraging their enemies from voting is a big part of their strategy, though, and I don't think anyone involved thinks the Taylor Swift fans are also Trump fans.

Honestly, if someone tries to tell you voting won't change anything, just point to how hard they try to rig the systems that drive it and how much they freak out about any indication that their enemies are planning to vote in large numbers.

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat. Republicans do better when less people vote.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Registering to vote helps Democrats more than Republicans, because ~~first time voters and younger voters are more likely to vote Democrat~~ many more people want to vote for Democrats.

Though your original version is also correct.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yes, absolutely. If we made voting mandatory, made Election Day a national holiday, and actually managed to get our turnout over 90%, the Democrats would landslide every election and the Republicans know it.

An awful lot of Republican policy makes sense when you view them as a party with a shrinking base. They’re trying to eek out what they can before shifting over to a new base.

Rubio, Cruz, and De Santis have been trying to build Hispanic bases, though none of them are really charismatic enough to pull it off.

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[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here she is speaking about Republicans in a 2020 documentary. I would say it’s a bit more than asking people to register.

Edit to add: She comes across so genuinely in this clip, I really love it. Listen to her speak and then think of any time you’ve ever heard Trump speak. I can understand why they feel threatened.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

She did call Marsha Blackburn,"Trump in a wig". Her fans aren't stupid.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Donald Trump and his far-right 'holy war' against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election."

News from a completely normal and not broken at all timeline. Imagine reading that sentence to someone 10 years ago.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

10 years ago was still 2 years left in the final Obama administration. Add on just a bit more to really drive those 2014 people crazy:

“After an unsuccessful violent insurrection to stay in the White House after being voted out, Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”

[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're about 80% of the way to Idiocracy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're past Idiocracy. President Camacho listened to the smartest person in the room. Trump thinks he is the smartest person in the room.

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[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like that headline would be completely normal during the 80s satanic witch hunt.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago

I think they'd be confused about why a real estate celebrity is going after a 1 year old girl but yeah not too far off

[–] ares35@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

who has 'pop star saves democracy' on their bingo card?

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

They're not trying to win the popularity contest. They're trying to win the "do what we say or maybe one of our violent followers will try to kill you" contest. That's what Hannity means by "think twice."

They abandoned the pretense of nonviolence and freedom of speech for their enemies quite a while ago.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do what we say or maybe one of our violent followers will try to kill you

Like this guy.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having watched Fox News from time to time I am amazed that this kind of thing hasn't yet started happening more often.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guarantee you Taylor Swift has some of the best security in the world, so I'm guessing that doesn't worry her much.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They could still bomb one of her concerts, or drive a car into fans waiting in line, or some other type of stochastic terrorism. Like a lot terrorism, it's not necessary to do enough to actually endanger a real high percentage of people, just enough to make anyone who won't toe the line a little fearful about their safety because of it. A little bit's enough.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That usually backfires though.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, maybe so. I hadn't really realized it before you said this, but historically the violence that helps usher in a fascist takeover is either police violence or big, public, mob-style events -- not this sneaking around planting pipe bombs nonsense. I think you may well be right that stochastic terrorism ultimately inspires more resistance then obedience.

The only analogs I can even think of where a successful fascist takeover was accompanied by terrorism in secret, are the Reichstag fire and the false-flags from Putin's early days -- and both of those inspired a strong reaction against the party that, supposedly, was the one that had perpetrated them.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watching Kimmel's monologue from yesterday-

The same people who believe Joe Biden has dementia and needs Kamala Harris to feed him butterscotch tapioca every night also believe that he has somehow planned and executed a diabolicalically brilliant scheme to fix the NFL playoffs so the biggest pop star in the world can pop up on the jumbotron during the Superbowl in between a Kia and a Tostitos commercial to hypnotize her 11-year-old fans into voting for Joe Biden.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So weak you can crush them, so strong you’re terrified.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It's the Fascist™ way!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After 8 years of whatever Democrats claim they're doing, Donald Trump may have finally encountered opponents who are interested in fighting back.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really, really want the history books to say that Taylor Swift was responsible for Trump losing by a landslide.

It's oddly fitting for this cursed timeline

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You're right, it fits all too well. I'm not currently really a Taylor Swift fan but I would buy every album if she did that

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Out of the two of these people only one is actually a billionaire :)

That’s gotta chap his orange ass

[–] Yewb@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My friends dad who had spent his entire life as a staunch republican like Reagan style came to her and said "who do you want me to vote for, you are going to be here I wont".

I hope this perspective shift happens with all boomers.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

spent his entire life as a staunch republican like Reagan style

TBF his perspective hasn't changed that much. It's his party that has abandoned him.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ray-gun was a Trump precursor. It was Bush Sr. that took a step back from the brink and went back to just being an awful jackass.

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[–] xkoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 year ago

Taylor Swiftboating.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After weeks of Republican media pundits and a former presidential candidate vilifying her, going as far as saying she's a Defense Department psy-op asset

Of course. Everyone is an agent of darkness. The right has this problem. They can’t say „We fight to make your lives miserable and we will fuck you and the whole nation over. It will be a complete clusterfuck”. Because that would be honest. So they have to make up enemies.

it seems all but certain Trump will jump into the fray soon after Rolling Stone reported one of his confidants predicted a "holy war" against the pop sensation.

“Holy war” sounds way cooler than what it really is. If you just could see how pathetic you really are, Donnie. And your followers are somehow even worse.

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[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

The difference between Swift and Trump is that Taylor understands she needs to give back to her fans, in music and performances. Trump just sees his fans as providing something for him, their money in donations and ego boosts.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

It's 2024 and Swifties are scarier than Anonymous; Maybe it's looking glass-ception and we need to go through more of them.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I have to agree. He will not.

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