Yeah, ain't this the truth. Firefox and safari are the only browsers that arent chromium based. We must protect Firefox at all coats! Without it, Google would have a monopoly on the browser space... a world I would not like to live in.
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I'm doing my part, but damn has it gotten janky since the rewrite.
Yeah, I feel you on that.
I hate chromium.
It acts like chrome because IT IS CHROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Minus the obvious branding and proprietary "Google-y bits" Unfortunately it's the same codebase.
At least Firefox at it's core truly differs.
The only reason Chromium exists is because Google is bound by the original license when they bought it, which is copyleft. So they have to release an open source version, which is Chromium. Google Chrome is their flagship product and is proprietary and hence is the one that bears the Google branding and colours.
And much more private, and you can make it more private by hardening it!
Firefox is the best. There is only Firefox.
The misuse of this meme is one of my biggest meme pet peeves. Have people forgotten that in that scene, his vision is clear when he's not wearing glasses? So the meme should be the other way around.
Like many memes, this one exists outside of the original oeuvre (movie, painting, etc). For instance, I have not see the movie it comes from, it wouldn't makes sense to me if it was the other way around.
Kids these days, amirite...
Real men telnet to the web server and manually type GET commands and read the raw HTML.
Pft you still have to read the HTML? I just stick a fiberoptic in my ass and download it rectally.
Guess you have enough fiber in your diet.
Chromium, privacy chromium, corporate chromium, spyware chromium, there’s so much diversity! /s
Ah... the first repost I've seen on the threadiverse thus far. I hope this doesn't become a trend.
Perhaps a repost, but it was new to me so I can't complain...
My colleague in Kronika, reposting on Internet forums is a tradition.
You cant escape the fake Internet points group
This is precisely what makes Firefox so important. It's basically the only other open and independent implementation of the web stack. If Firefox goes away then the web becomes whatever Chrome is doing just how it was in the days when IE was the only game in town.
This will also make Google the gatekeeper for the Internet, and there's a pretty big conflict with an ads company controlling how people consume content online. We've already seen how Google keeps trying to make API changes in the engine that kneecap adblockers.
Of course, people could fork Chrome into a separate project, but maintaining a fork is a herculean effort, and it would basically need the funding and infrastructure that Mozilla already has.
Firefox gets north of $300-$500 million from Google.
iOS be like: they're all safari
Honestly, my biggest fear if Apple ever allows other browser engines on iOS is that developers will stop testing on anything other than Chrome. And they will tell iPhone users to "just download Chrome."
I've already heard so many places tell people not to use Firefox or Safari to access their website. It's IE 6 all over again. I hate Chrome and refuse to use it.
Yes, it’s a sad state of affairs that Apple’s restrictions on iOS and iPadOS browsers are the only thing stopping an effective Google monopoly over web browsers. Ideally Firefox would still keep things in balance, but Mozilla doesn’t seem to know what it’s doing these days in terms of building market share - and I say that as a long time Firefox user.
I still remember the IE 6 era, and I hope we never see a single browser dominate the web again. To those wishing Apple would be forced to open up, be careful what you wish for.
Firefox is in a pickle, because unlike the IE/Firefox, where FF was winning share by the boatload against a stagnant competitor, Chrome is super actively developed, active and heavily pushed by Google. Basically FF is now kept alive by Google the way you’d keep a single competitor city alive in Civilization to ensure you game wouldn’t end with a military/domination victory. FF is a Native American reservation surrounded by white folks not giving a shit about what happens on your dust bowl.
But yes, FF for life for me!
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Bring back Netscape! Actually I would take the old Opera. That was my browser of choice prior to the chrome integration.
Netscape IS Firefox.
Ok, so this is my setup.
Work laptop: Forced to use chrome so switched to degoogled chromium. Personal PC: Windows and Linux: Use librewolf on my personal machines. iPhone: Use Firefox on my iPhone Android: I use Bromite (Chromium based) on my Android phone.
So, it's basically using the best I could find for each job. I cannot defend either of those as the only reason I continue to use them is because I am used to the interface.
Recently switched over to mull browser. Fork of the Firefox browser, works great so far. Also if you are unsure of the security of your browser, could use the website, browseraudit.com, that rates your current browsers. Runs 100+ against several tests and reports back.
God damn I thought I saw the last of these stupid browser takes on reddit, chromium is open source and we've seen multiple browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, I think librewolf) using its potential to remove themselves from the chromium baseline and build out their own fork with ad blocking services that didn't go down when manifest V3 happened.
There's no "browser monopoly" anymore than there's a "V shaped engine" monopoly in cars. Why don't people use Gecko more? That's like asking why people don't use rotary piston engines in cars, you could, it's just garbage. Gecko isn't the standard because no one wants to build a web browser with it.
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There really needs to be a "Linux" of browser engines.
Isn't that gecko, Firefox's engine?
From what I understand, Gecko was a terrible engine from the get-go. It is also difficult to work with, and had a lot of idiosyncrasies that made hard to build anything that isn't just a clone of Firefox. There's a reason why Apple used KHTML as the basis of Safari and not Gecko. Even Brave is based off of Chromium, and the founder of Brave is one of Mozilla's founders!
So apparently no, Gecko is not it. We need something closer to a pure browser engine that is open source.
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Where is Netscape!
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