What is your budget?
In general try to go for Asus, they can mesh and are usually reliable.
If you want something more advanced, look into Ubiquiti, though they will be more expensive, also read the reviews for the different components, some POE switches can get quite hot, so if you don't need it try and avoid it.
I am on Asus, and have had very little issues related to my router the last few years, but have been eyeing Ubiquiti lately...
I can second the reliability of Asus. Mine is five years old now, and still going strong.
Had an asus mesh system with three different routers for a bit. Worked really well! One of them died though so bought a refurb asus mesh system off Amazon for like $100. Great speed and coverage for a year now no complaints!!
Asus puts a lot of their advertised features behind accepting terms and conditions that have them harvesting and selling your data. You can not agree to it and still use the device. But many of the advertised features won't work.
Check out ASUS Merlin, it's a openwrt reimplementation of most of ASUS closed in features
Thanks, ASUS Merlin looks great.
I also second this. I have an Asus router setup with mesh nodes, and it has been running smoothly, especially since I'm hosting a plex server and occasionally multiplayer servers.
The new UniFi switches are surprisingly good. Poe++ without breaking a sweat. I have some of their original line too. You can bake an egg on them.
Running tp-link. So far no issues. Asus is good, tp-link gives you more features on the cheaper models than Asus like vlan if you want it.
I bought an Asus RT-AX53U, it was the cheapest WiFi 6 router with openwrt support
I've been happy with Asus & TP-Link using openwrt. I'm curious about the Bananapi ones but it could be a hassle & what I have now works.
https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_available_16128
for the full list
Does openwrt has dual wan support? I'm considering to try openwrt on my asus router, but I currently use its dual wan failover feature.
Of course it does, anyway it's normal Linux, so it does everything desktop Linux does, you gonna be of course limited by your device hardware capabilities like RAM or storage, so maybe you won't be able to deploy a kubernetes stack on your home router but it'll be doable on a more capable device running OpenWRT like an RPi, PC or NAS;-)
This is exactly what I need. Thanks!
My recommendation falls squarely on the Omada series from TP-Link. It's their SMB (small-medium business) offering and its very wallet friendly for what it is. Though WiFi 7 stuff is of course not cheap if you want the bleeding edge. I suggest going with the EAP6 series with WiFi 6E. No need to buy the physical controller, instead DIY a router with opnsense or pfsense and the Omada software for managing the APs is what I recommend. You of course need a switch with PoE like TL-SG2008P. PoE is a game changer for making wiring up the APs easy, and I do recommend wiring them because then you don't need to think about having a strong signal between the APs.
Criteria being stability mainly, all consumer stuff is much more prone to the occasional drop and just plain wonky ness. Another criteria being upgrade path, the Omada stuff can easily be sold when you upgrade because they retain value pretty well (and you can find them used to start with as well). They also don't ship with the bloat consumer devices come with. With features you don't need and router+AP combo is fine if you're in a single room apartment but it doesn't scale to a multiroom setup well. I've used Asus "AI-mesh" and you really waste more money than you save in my experience.
Don’t get a combined AP and router. Make sure they’re separate. That will get you a lot of quality just by doing that.
I feel like you're conflating combined devices with consumer-grade ones. I've had pretty good experiences with Unifi's all-in-one offerings.
That’s a good point. I haven’t used unifi’s combined devices. I was under the impression that the radio generally works better when not next to the router but maybe that’s old news.
It's more like radios work better when the designers had a budget to work with
Any WiFi 6 or 7 router in which you can install openwrt and set as a dumb AP connected to an x86 machine running OPNSense or openwrt itself. The redundancy and enhanced control are 10/10 worth it, along with security and stability.
I had many wifi issues due to the layout and structure of my dwelling, and Unifi was the only setup that solved them. I started with my original Orbi (Voxel firmware) mesh setup from my previous home, but performance wasn't where I wanted it due to the age of the devices. Then I tried the TP-Link w7200 sets from Walmart, but it didn't meet my needs connecting a remote building on the property.
Unifi are expensive, but I have no regrets. Even added their security cameras to my network when the old system needed replaced.
Any relatively large home made out of reinforced concrete will need multiple access points with cable connections.
I use UniFi myself. My parents have a grandstream setup. They are both very good. Best bang for buck right now is probably tplink omada but those acces points are hideous.
If you are in Germany, a Fritzbox is probably your best option
Unifi, grandstream, mikrotek are all good options
I'm personally a fan of microtik products. It's nice as they have a lot of built in management features. However, the downside is that there is a learning curve to their products which can feel like a vertical wall some times.
are there any AX routers supported by DD-WRT? all routers your article suggests are AC routers, quick research show no AX routers on support lists
As far as I can see, there may be no AX routers supported under dd-wrt.
There are about 40 AX routers here that appear to be supported by OpenWrt(2 pages).
How big is your place? What speeds does your ISP offer?
It depends on your use case. I live in a decent sized one bedroom apartment with heavy Internet usage, so I got a 500Mbps unlimited Internet service (remember, the hardware isn't the only part of the equation) and the wifi 6 capable tp-link AX1500.
What is "unlimited internet"?
It's just what we call "internet" in most countries 😂 Remember the early 2000s when ISPs tried to limit how much internet we could use and so we just switched to another provider that had a better offer, and the whole 'limit' thing disappeared virtually overnight?
Yeah...
I don't remember it being like that, ever. 😅
We had 56k dial-up as our first connection, but the only limiting factor was that it was a bit costly due to essentially being a phone call. No limit on the data. Then came ADSL -- 1.5 Mbps speed, but no data limit. Then 100/10 Mbps in the more modern era, so of course no limit. Now as an adult living on my own, I've had 100/100 Mbps, 300/150 Mbps, and now 500/500 Mbps, obviously no limits.
This was all in Sweden.
But yeah, like you say, I guess most other countries don't really have limits on the data. I find that to be insane in 2024 that an ISP would limit the amount of data you can use. It would have to be really freaking cheap and I'd have to be really freaking poor to want to choose that option.
What I do remember is being limited on how much data I can use on my phone, which is still a thing in 2024. I also find that to be rather crazy when I think about it.
Must've been nice in europe. My 100mbps fiber plan actually has 2TB data cap...
Pretty decent, but... Sometimes sailing the high seas might even cap you out at those levels too. 🏴☠️
For phones that infrastructure is just so much more costly since it needs near constant replacement with newer tech. 5G is far from completely rolled out and the next project looks to be dismantling GSM and 3G after that it won't be long till 6G. Meanwhile Fiber is all but ubiquitous by now, hell several vacation homes in the extended family has fiber ny now and the cables won't need to be switched for a long time I reckon, I'm betting 30 years at least of only needing to change the switches every 10 or so years, which is infinitely cheaper and easier than building/replacing a mobile network mast.
Makes sense, yeah 👍
Some ISPs in the US added data caps to their home internet plans. I believe we used to have bans on said caps until relatively recently, and now the FCC is trying to impose a ban again.
Ah nice, let's hope the bans do come back! 🤞
Before buying, look for secondhand ones, many people move to a different house where their previous system becomes obsolete, or they upgraded to a different beast.
I have a gl.inet router and it’s great. Super easy to setup and supports wireguard out of the box. It has some cool travel features as well.
Got 2 Unifi u6+ a while ago and they work pretty well
One you can put openwrt on and that is fast enough for the highest 802.11 protocol your devices support
How hard is it to put openwrt on any old commodity router if it's on the compatible devices list? Is it basically just using the old router's firmware update page and loading the openwrt firmware image?
Thinking about gifting a new wifi access point for one of my friends with a crap router that doesn't even support 5ghz channels
There is usually a per-router guide on installation. Sometimes you can just use the built-in firmware flashing interface, sometimes you have to do funny things like do that twice in a row, sometimes you need to access a special interface.
I had a heckuva time making the signal reach the living room. Went through WPS and range extenders. The only thing that has worked was a set of four mesh routers.
No problems since.
I run Asus with dd-wrt.
do you find you need range extenders for 5 GHz? if so, you want mesh. I live in a relatively small apartment, and I'm perfectly happy with my Belkin AC1900. it maxes out at 1.3 gbps on the 5ghz but I'm only paying for 1.2 so no need to upgrade yet
Unifi Gateway Ultra and the Unifi AP Pro 7 is my current setup and I have nothing but praise for it. I definitely don't recommend consumer mesh systems as I've had poor performance with those.
i literally clicked on this discussion right when my eero died again.
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