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Cyberpunk

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What is Cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.

Cyberpunk characteristics include:

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There are hundreds of lazy low-budget cyberpunk movies that flooded the (direct-to-video) market in the 80s and 90s. Stuff like Crime Zone, Nemesis, or Omega Doom. So what cyberpunk movies can you admit are objectively bad yet still hold a place in your heart?

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[–] YaksDC@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Freejack, with Emilio Estevez, Mick Jagger and Anthony Hopkins.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

Oh shit man I still have this comic, 10 out of 10 never even looked at it, bought it on a whim with others and put it in a bag& board to keep it prestine

[–] nahuse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 months ago

Johnny Mnemonic. Keanu Reeves. Henry Rollins. Fuckin… a bright orange videocassette with Keanu Reeves but his head is the tape of the movie.

It’s honestly amazing. And his rant about room service was peak Keanu.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does Hackers (1995) count?

[–] BartyDeCanter 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No, because Hackers is too awesome to be bad.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Along with Sneakers (1992), it's still regarded as one of the most accurate hacking movies ever despite the over the top visuals (which were all practical, no CGI). Most of those social engineering tricks still work.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I genuinely want them to do hackers as a tv series. Keep the actual "hacking" as nonsense but keep the vibe and the counterculture fun.

[–] circuitfarmer 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cyborg (1989) is a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie that I would say is technically cyberpunk. It's bad but also super entertaining.

[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure if Runaway (1984) counts as cyberpunk but I think it could. It's like the one film I'd actually like to see remade.

The premise is solid, it follows a police unit dedicated to wrangling or disabling runaway robots as they come to realize that their most recent robotic troublemakers aren’t just running amok from glitches but have been deliberately sabotaged in order to conduct a series of murders.

I really like that the runaway squad isn’t treated as glamorous work. The closest fit I can think of would be Animal Control. Not something to earn the envy and respect of beat cops, perhaps. I think that does a good job of setting the scope of the film and nicely illustrating that the protagonists are both in over their heads, and still the only ones qualified to unravel this mystery.

And the film gets a few other things very right - their ‘floaters’ are a downright prescient prediction of modern consumer drones, right down to how they’re used. The digitized records, voice synthesis, and other predictions of the future are pretty solid. I like the gear and precautions they take to mask and insulate themselves. The bad guy’s prototype gun that shoots rounds that chase people is actually a fun concept, might work well as a flavor of tiny suicide drones since it seemed to move at about running pace anyways.

It’s mostly let down by the setting, sets, and limitations of the props/technology.

All these predictions of the future where robots are everywhere bounce hard off the boringly 1980s daytime aesthetics and the tiny robots. It’s not trying to be the future, really, or it’s not trying very hard. The robots especially are kind of disappointing. They’re… cute, and Tom Selleck tries really hard to look intimidated by two-foot-tall robots on little roller skate wheels in several tense scenes but there’s only so much he can do.

I think with some modern cyberpunk aesthetics, some updated understanding of technology, and some more elaborate robot designs/malfunction scenarios, it could be a really good flick. Maybe borrow the creepy android from Megan for the scene where the robot housekeeper has killed its family and the protagonist has to sneak in to save the crying baby before the robot goes after it, and you’d have something really tense. (The current version has Tom Selleck sneaking around a dark house, trying to outsmart a boxy little two foot cube holding a gun).

I suppose I’ve described a Bad Metal movie. You know, I think I’d like someone to fund that instead please. Or at least finish the books.

[–] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you type all that and neglect to mention Gene Simmons?

[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I completely did. He did an excellent job chewing on all the scenery. It's a legit cast - if they'd had some imagination in the sets and a budget for decent props it could have been awesome

[–] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

I bet Gene got paid a lot of that budget. :)

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Super Mario Bros. I like the movie, but I can definitely see why people don't.

[–] zib@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I highly recommend you check out the extended cut if you haven't seen it already. If nothing else, it's worth it just for the Iggy & Spike rap.

[–] MetricIsRight@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hold up, there's an extended cut, and there's a Iggy & Spike rap and I'm just finding out about this now? Thank you kind stranger.

[–] zib@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Happy to help! It's on https://archive.org if you're interested in checking it out. Go search their movie database for "Super Mario Bros: The Morton Jankel Cut".

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Oh man, finally got around to watching it thanks to your recommendation and I was thoroughly entertained. Had a big dumb grin on my face through most of it. Thanks for that!

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 11 months ago

King Koopa runs a corporate dystopia in a seemingly slightly futuristic world that is the Mushroom Kingdom. We even see the use of cybernetics in the form of Kuribo's Shoes, depicted as giant robotic boots.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They mean specifically the 1993 movie

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Right, I figured as much, guess I better rewatch it

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just hate the fact that Super Mario Bros. is, indeed, cyberpunk. It's just so freaking bizarre. lol

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It's also one of the only moderately successful movies about a plumber.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for letting me know about this community!

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Happy to, sometimes instead of loading up one of my myriad streaming services and suffering the algorithms telling me what it thinks I want Ill just scroll through that community till I find something.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

Hardware.

"Ohhhh we alll walk, the wiggle-y waggl-y walk!"

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Split Second.

Rutger Hauer hams it up in a near future flooded London.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dredd is awesome, and this is asking about bad movies.

Did you mean Judge Dredd?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I must have skimmed over the bad part, you’re right

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] zib@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the theme was "so awful it's great", I think they may have nailed it.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Its also free and full on youtube Right Here

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Prayer for the Rollerboys. My old hair dresser was one of the Rollerboys.

[–] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some of Corey Haim's finest work.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 11 months ago

Bad cyberpunk featuring Corey Haim?! I'm watching this!

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Show me your dick.

Only one of them has that line.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Nemesis sucks, but it's poster is fuckin amazing

[–] avater@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Bladerunner but only for the visuals

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but Bladerunner isn't a bad cyberpunk movie, in fact it's pretty much the gold standard.

That's like saying whats everyone's favorites "low key hike" and you say "Mt Everest"

[–] trslim@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I actually dislike Bladerunner as well. Great atmosphere and music, but didn't like the plot or characters.

Bladerunner 2049 was really good tho.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

have the same vibes with the sequel. I don't know, those movies are simply not working for me, but I also never found the shortstory to be that good 🤷‍♂️

[–] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

quiet subjective isn't it? I don't like Bladerunner at all and I mean every version of that movie...

I'm fine if you like it, but for me it's one of the worst movies except visuals and music

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mean the Sherpas that lead Everest tours probably don't think much of it, but for the majority of people, climbing Everest is a big deal.

Same for Bladerunner. The concensus is: Triumph

I postulate that you knew this would be controversial and that's why you posted it.

[–] avater@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

nope, just sharing my opinion.

[–] obsolete@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] avater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

fair enough