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Ocean Heat Has Shattered Records for More Than a Year. What’s Happening? (www.nytimes.com)

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“There’s no ambiguity about the data,” said Gavin Schmidt, a climatologist and the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. “So really, it’s a question of attribution.”

Understanding what specific physical processes are behind these temperature records will help scientists improve their climate models and better predict temperatures in the future.

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[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 84 points 4 months ago

My wife told me I was a doomer gloomer for not wanting to have kids due to climate uncertainty. I wanted to adopt instead.

I'm terrified of how the world will look over the next century for my 6 month old son.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

You gave in, huh?

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[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 68 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Narrator: The world became uninhabitable. But for a short time, it created tremendous value for our shareholders.

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[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well i'm not a scientist (actually I am, but not a climate scientist), but im gunna take a wild flailing stab in the dark and suggest it's maybe due to unfettered fossil fuel emissions.

Call me crazy but i think this might be what's happening here.

[-] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

we should really wait until we have more evidence before making such wild and unfounded statements

[-] Sebbe@lemmy.sebbem.se 12 points 4 months ago

Pretty much every damn scientist nowadays, no matter their subject, seems to be a climate alarmist. I wonder what that could mean!

The only reasonable conclusion is a conspiracy, of course.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Nah, its the avacado toast.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

What makes you so sure? As I see it, it could be that or illegals... maybe there is a synergistic relationship beetween the two?

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[-] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 33 points 4 months ago

I was watching a video about past extinctions and they had a line where the oceans warmed two degrees over two million years, which was just about enough time for the ecosystems to evolve and adapt.

Look at what we've done in two hundred.

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

we're all the frogs in god's slowly boiling kettle.

Fortunately Exxon et al made STELLAR profits for damn near a century, it only cost us the one viable ecosystem we have in the entire known universe.

Tsk. Well profits have to be made, it's capitalism. Can't argue with that.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 months ago

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago

Woohoo! The beginning of the end!!

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 29 points 4 months ago

It doesn't have to be. That's entirely a human decision.

[-] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

And humans wont do anything till its too late. As we always do.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

Or even then. If it makes a penny less profit, it’s not going to happen.

[-] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Dont know why people are downvoting you. If it doesnt make money then it wont make change.

This isnt a fairytail. We arent promised a happy ending.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

fairy tale

[-] Scurouno@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

The majority of fairy tales (as told throughout human history) do not have happy endings. They were typically told to teach or reinforce hard social truths to prepare young people for the world. The "fairy-tale ending" is really an anachronism of modern, capitalistic story telling. Happy fantasy sells, and reinforces myths that benefit the elite, such as upward social and financial mobility (see Jane Austin, or every Disney movie), and the opportunity to become part of the landed gentry. The belief that everything always works out is itself a major piece of the capitalists propaganda machine, and because we fall for this, we keep making decisions against out best interests - We are all just one fateful encounter away from becoming rich or famous after all.

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[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

That's up to us. Get involved. Join an activist group, or a political campaign. Change policy. Show your neighbors how it's possible to cut fossil fuels out of your life.

[-] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

History is a big teacher, this issue is coming from the big boys of industry. Without major industry change it aint gonna happen, and worldwide as well. Even if the USA goes to 0 other countries can keep it going and offset any good we do.

Im not being a downer, im being real, its bad. Real bad.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It does have to be. Because humans continue to make that decision, day in and day out, and ignore graphs like this. They ignore the blistering hot unprecedented Summer temps, the Arctic blasts, the hurricanes, the hailstorms, the increased insurance rates or even the unavailability of insurance altogether. They just keep driving their F150s to the office in rush hour traffic while heating hundreds of gallons of water in their pools that go unused 99.9% of the time.

[-] Veraxus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It's entirely a billionaire decision.

Most of us humans have no power over this.

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[-] SuperTulle@feddit.nu 9 points 4 months ago

At least billionaires are getting richer

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Good thing that I don't have children to experience the fucking Apokalypse

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I wouldnt worry about that, you and I are likely to experience it ourselves

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is why I didn’t have children

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago

climate change. climate change is happening.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

It's a little more complicated than that — El Niño, plus climate change, plus a cut in the amount of sulfur in the fuel burned by ships, plus something that's not fully understood.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

el nino is that bad because of climate change. i think this was predicted.

im curious about the sulfur thing, what changes?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago

There was an international treaty to cut the amount of sulfur in the bunker oil that the big ships burn. This is because the particulates it produces when burned kill people. They also reflected a bunch of sunlight, preventing it from warming the water.

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[-] Langehund@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

what’s happening?

Gettin hotter, innit?

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Have fun while you can guys. Shits gonna get rough sooner than we all think

[-] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

The beginning of the end, obviously. Dinosaurs 2.0 shall inherit the Earth since they're fine with a shitton of CO2 in the atmosphere and warmer everything.

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Hurricane season gone be fun!

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[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

We will be a footnote in Earth's history, a dead branch on the tree of evolution

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 4 months ago

Quick, push the glaciers into the sea to cool it down again!

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

I have a lot of conservative family members in my extended family. You can tell them this all day long, present all the data in the world, and they wouldn't care one single crap.

"Hoax, lies, fake news, liberal agenda, etc, etc."

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[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

We're all about to die, that's what

[-] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

We fucked it.. Plain and simple..

[-] Teppichbrand@feddit.de 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is not a good answer. 10 years ago nobody cared and we kept doing what we always did. Now everyone realises humanity is facing a severe survival-problem in the near future and people instantly switch from denying it to accepting it. Please don't! There are so many things one can do to fight our collapse. Apathy, catastrophism and cynicism gives power to the fossil destroyers. Don't let those fuckers win, go solarpunk on them! Take your money to a green, ethical bank, go vegan, grow potatoes with your neighborhood, repair stuff and blow up a pipeline.
In a strange way, the global heating gives our lifes way more meaning than 30 years ago, when nothing mattered and we just kept buying toys until we die.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

what’s happening?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 4 months ago

Climate change.

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

If you read the article, climate change + El Nino + reduced aerosols in the atmosphere + a volcano eruption + a yet unknown factor, which the article is about.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Fair, and bonus points for RTFA.

That said - we know what it's about. That graph isn't new. We did this last year too.

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[-] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Ocean Heat sounds like a nu wave synth band from the early 90s.

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