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In the wake of George Floyd’s murder, a school board in northern Virginia stripped the names of Confederate military figures from two schools. Four years later, the board approved a motion to restore the names.

The school board in Shenandoah County, Virginia, early Friday approved a proposal that will restore the names of Confederate military leaders to two public schools.

The measure, which passed 5-1, reverses a previous board’s decision in 2020 to change the names of schools that had been linked to Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Turner Ashby, three men who led the pro-slavery Southern states during the Civil War

Mountain View High School will go back to the name Stonewall Jackson High School. Honey Run Elementary School will go back to the name Ashby-Lee Elementary School.

The board stripped their names after a Minneapolis police officer murdered George Floyd, fueling a national racial reckoning. The calls for racial justice and equity inspired some communities to remove Confederate symbolism and statues of Confederate generals.

But in Shenandoah County, the conservative group Coalition for Better Schools petitioned school officials to reinstate the names of Jackson, Lee and Ashby. “We believe that revisiting this decision is essential to honor our community’s heritage and respect the wishes of the majority,” the coalition wrote in an April 3 letter to the board, according to a copy posted online.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But while he was alive, Lee stressed his belief that the country should move past the war. He swore allegiance to the Union and publicly decried southern separatism, whether militant or symbolic. “It's often forgotten that Lee himself, after the Civil War, opposed monuments, specifically Confederate war monuments.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

TFW the historical leader of the traitors is more patriotic than the modern republican voter.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would recommend listening to the Behind the Bastards episodes on the guy.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a fellow BtB fan, that was my first thought as well. No one should give a damn what Lee said regardless of what side he appears to be taking. He was a terrible person, a terrible general, and only ever seemed to do what he felt would benefit him the most personally.

It's the same reason I get annoyed seeing media portray Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, John Bolton, and Anthony Scaramucci, etc as a source of valid, balanced, and impartial viewpoints. We all saw what you guys did when you had control, but some of us don't forget as quickly as others. You're only concerned for your reputation and legacy and to preserve another chance to do what you did all over again.

Never listen to a traitor, me boys!

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Mooch is a piece of shit no doubt, but he’s on a different tier of evil than those other three ghouls

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Very true, but his time in an official position was limited to a matter of days. I was just trying to think of the names that jumped out at me as still being regularly in the spotlight for no good reason. His platform should have ended as quickly as it began, but media is still giving him a voice over better options, and he's still a symptom of a greater issue in how people get news.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyways, the guy they're holding up on a pedestal literally said not to. Everything else you said is a completely separate thing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their Confederate "heritage" lasted five years. The Obama administration lasted eight years. Maybe they need a Barack Hussein Obama elementary school to celebrate their heritage.

[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wikipedia has a list of places named after each president. I see zero southern schools named after Obama. You might be on to something.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_educational_institutions_named_after_presidents_of_the_United_States

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love that the only entry under Trump is Trump University.

Nixon gets two real schools.

[–] termain@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I should have been more clear I meant public schools. Sorry.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Now now, that heritage was established after five years and has run for generations. Their heritage is picking fights they can't win, quitting because it wasn't easy, and being a bitch about it for generations.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Government buildings should not be named after enemies of the state.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago
[–] meleecrits@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My "heritage" involves kicking the shit out of their "heritage." Perhaps I should honor mine?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Uncle Sherman approves

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no honor in anything relating to pro-slavery. Fuck those ignorant bastards.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"It's not hate, it's heritage!" The literal words said to my Asian wife driving through Virginia with her friend and their cousins seeing confederate flags painted on barn roofs. And yeah, it's a heritage of fucking pro-slavery. It's like when people say it was about economic policy...Well yeah, the Confederate economy was built on Slavery, so you're not wrong....but still not in the way you think you're right.

[–] meleecrits@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Never forget that ever state that seceded listed slavery, specifically superiority over black people as the reason for secession, codified slavery into law, and the CSA had a federal law stating that no state within the Confederacy could ever be allowed to become a free state.

Kinda puts a damper on the "states rights" argument.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Funny how their entire heritage is based around a bunch of guys who committed treason and only existed for 4-5 years over 150 years ago.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I’m just glad they never messed with the Adolf Hitler Center for Diversity.

[–] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"respect the wishes of the majority"

ffs

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

They left the word 'white' out of that sentence.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Except for when the majority didn't vote for their desired leader.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

The tyranny of the majority more like. Fuck those racist traitors.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jackson and Lee were prominent, competent military leaders. Who is Ashby, though?

googles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Ashby

Some cavalry commander under Jackson. He doesn't sound like that big a deal.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing he's a local boy where that school is.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago

That's a thought.

checks

I mean, same general region, northern Virginia, but not really his place of birth. Something like a hundred miles away.

It sounds like he was one of a number of people who got appointed via political connections.

I'd think that if one wanted to choose a Confederate military leader who did well, there'd be a lot of better choices. Like, the North-South division ran right next to Washington, DC, due to the Maryland/Virginia split, Richmond wasn't that far away, and so northern Virginia was the location of a lot of important Civil War stuff and my impression is that generally, Confederate forces in the east performed better than those in the west. So one would think that the northern Virginia region would have a lot of prominent options.

If you wanted to pick a Confederate cavalry commander, I'd think that I'd pick someone like J. E. B. Stuart, who really did outperform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._E._B._Stuart

Like his intimate friend, Stonewall Jackson, General J. E. B. Stuart was a legendary figure and is considered one of the greatest cavalry commanders in American history. His friend from his federal army days, Union Major General John Sedgwick, said that Stuart was "the greatest cavalry officer ever foaled in America."[83]