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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by bquintb@midwest.social to c/politics@lemmy.world

We don't have a healthcare system in the US, we have an insurance racket.

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[-] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 78 points 6 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Can't we just annul the primaries and make it AOC/Omar 2024?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago

No, AOC cannot be president. She is currently 34 years of age

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Can't elect competent accomplished geniuses because they're young, but can elect near-death dementia patients.

Not saying AOC's a genius, just that there are no qualifiers where a young person can lead the generation that will have to live with their consequences.

[-] banana_head@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Needs to be at least 74.

[-] axsyse 14 points 6 months ago

She was born October 13th, 1989. That means she'll be 35 by the time of the election in November, not to mention before the inauguration in January (the date that actually matters). So, she's definitely eligible.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Is there precedent to support this? I am genuinely interested.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

Isn't the precedent that time has never gone in reverse, and is unexpected to ever.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I was always under the impression that you had to be 35 to get on the ballot

[-] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

No he's right actually, you just have to be 35 to be president, not to get elected president. If AOC were the nominee and she won, she would definitely be president!

[-] axsyse 3 points 6 months ago

Her birthday is in late October. She'll barely be 35 by the point of the election in November, but she will still be 35. So, she'd be 35 both when elected, and when inaugurated. It's a non-issue.

[-] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

The text of the constitution only mentions being 35 "to serve". Nothing at all about that having to be true during the election.

[-] axsyse 1 points 6 months ago

But regardless: she'll be 35 by the point of the election anyway so it's a non-issue to begin with.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

She'll be 35 by the time of her inauguration, which makes her eligible.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

And in 2028 like they said?

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Viking specifically put 2024 in his comment.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And her 35th birthday is in October, making her eligible.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 6 months ago

That's probably why OP said 2028.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 59 points 6 months ago

but hey, at least we can sell human killing devices the world over!

that budget never seems to get cut

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

America always finds a way to pay for more bombs and death.

Basic healthcare for our own? Sorry, the senate parliamentarian says the shareholders won’t have it. Maybe Vote harder next time sweetie!

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

For those unfamiliar with Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBM), and feel like getting angry, this is a well informed and well written article.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/07/07/1186317498/pharmacy-benefit-manager-pbm-ads-congress

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Fucking Express Scripts

So much of my life wasted fighting those absolute fucks

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 5 points 6 months ago

My insurance company constantly tries to push me to use them, but they are so unreliable and difficult to work with. I refuse to use them again. They email me every time I pick up a prescription from a real pharmacy and I report it as spam every time.

[-] shikitohno@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

My previous insurance just wouldn't cover any long-term prescriptions if I didn't fill it through Caremark on a 90-day supply. It was so annoying to deal with them. My regular pharmacy is two blocks away, if there's an issue with insurance or something, they give me a call and have generally been pro-active. Caremark would just sit on their hands until I realized it was weird I hadn't gotten a shipping notification, only to go "Oh, yeah, when we got this prescription we specifically requested you send through us, we decided there wasn't enough info to determine if you need it, so you need to call your doctor and tell them to call us."

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I had a similar situation, and found it much more reliable to have the prescription re-issued short term so I can get it locally

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

All my prescriptions have to go through them as part of some sort of "fuck you, whatcha gonna do about it, drop dead?" process, though I technically still do get to use my choice of pharmacy in the end.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 6 months ago

That sucks. Sorry you're stuck with them.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 30 points 6 months ago

As someone who has lived in Europe for many years, the healthcare system is one of my least favorite things about the US. Absolute trash. But many people keep voting for candidates who don't want change, so no change it is.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

But many people keep voting for candidates who don’t want change, so no change it is.

Candidates who want change are rare.

[-] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

And when someone does come along, the obstructionist party torpedoes it.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago

Truman's fair deal, yeah

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Most Democrats I know want a different healthcare system, including myself. I always find a candidate to vote for who want the same.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Most Democrats I know want a different healthcare system, including myself.

Most Democrats I know aren't candidates.

I always find a candidate to vote for who want the same.

It's easy to find a Democratic candidate who says they want change.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

It takes 60 votes in the Senate for real reform. The Democrats never have 60 votes, so it's incremental change. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It takes 60 votes in the Senate for real reform.

Because Democrats won't end the filibuster.

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[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago

It's weird because most hate it. I remember when Michael Moore's movie came out and even those in red states were gathering together to say that if we let this go on then we're complicit!

Then I think I remember Fox News and the right-wing going on a blitz. "Death Panels" and shit

https://youtu.be/JPa19PgTxZc?si=_M9f1k4noEEr0XJN

Look at this disinformation campaign. This is what pisses me off about this "both sides" bullshit. Also, whenever any comedian jerks themselves off about speaking the truth and being philosophers going off on woke when they shut their mouths about shit like this.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

“Death Panels” and shit

That was honestly the part that pissed me off the most about that whole discourse, mainly because we already had death panels and they were regularly sentencing people to death in order to save money.

They were called insurance companies, and they were able to drop your coverage and sentence you to death because you can't afford to pay to stay alive.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Russia has universal healthcare. Russia. Wtf America? Why aren't you on the streets demanding it as hard as you demand things for people in other countries?

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Because if we're in the streets, we aren't working. Which means we die because there's zero social safety net.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 17 points 6 months ago

I made about $3,000 more last year than the year before, so now I have a little under 30 days to use literally all the healthcare related things I can before I lose government insurance.

My yearly medical costs are higher than $3,000 but not enough to justify getting insurance.

So now I get to lose money because I made more money, Unlike all those fuckwads who blather on about how they're paying more in taxes now than their raise was...

[-] glouriousgouda@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 6 months ago

"Healthcare" implies it's something useful and available.

It is "luxury health". If you can't pay, you don't stay.

Wish they would just say that instead of all this other abstract nonsense like health-care.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If you edit the URL to add the www you won't get the access denied

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

TFW they have to find one person to state this for the headline.

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