A lot of leftists on social media are Big Mad that DSA required masks at their National Convention. (hexbear.net)

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Of all the things you could critique DSA on, this is the hill you're going to die on? agony-consuming

DSA deciding to do a mask mandate at this event is unequivocally good and based. Shut the fuck up, you fucking dipshits.

Imagine being this much of a fucking goddamn crybaby about masking. Eat shit, you ableist fucks.

One of the biggest lessons this pandemic has taught me is the astounding number of people for whom leftism is really just performative, and that when push comes to shove, these people will make the biggest fucking stink about having to do something even mildly inconvenient for even a single fucking event or context and show themselves for who they really are.

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

I don't consider someone a leftist by default if they can't even be bothered to care enough about other people to wear a fucking mask, even if it's mildly inconvenient to them. disgost

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

this

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

please correct your post and put leftists in scare quotes

[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I am always kinda suspect when someone doesn’t want to use protection of any sort. Rubber gloves, safety goggles, seat belts, masks, whatever. Even if you take it off the moment you leave or whatever, it’s just kinda weird when someone asks you to do “the safety thing, even it just a for a little bit” and people bug out

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I hate wearing masks but its not fucking hard to do if youre just glad handing a bunch of people in an air conditioned space. As you long as you arnt doing hard work in the sun/humidity theres very little reason to get mad at masking.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Nice, fuck American individualist culture

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I still can't fathom why people get so pissed off about wearing masks. I've heard tons of explanations but they just slip off my mind. Like just... don't catch a shitload of respiratory viruses and con crud! The horror!

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I still can't fathom why people get so pissed off about wearing masks.

For the same reason they threw a fit about seat belts and motorcycle helmets. Its a generic "You can't tell me what to do!" impulse that runs rampant among American libertarians.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

impulse that runs rampant among American libertarians.

It didn't stop with the libertarians. doomer

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

My partner was fucking healthy before her first and only COVID infection. Also if one includes those "at risk" (old, chronically ill, cancer surviving, diabetic, too young to vaccinate, etc), it's like 50% of the human population.

[-] macabrett@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure "at risk" included pretty much all mental health disorders too. I remember reading articles listing those at risk around the time the vaccines came out (and thus around the time of "take your masks off its over" round 1).

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah depression and stress both impair your immune system, and given that everyone is depressed and stressed now... 🤮

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[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I mean I don't want it to be the norm forever, at least not outside of big events where it makes sense, but with covid still going around in waves....

Plus, the way to not have to wear masks in the future is to actually wear them when there is a pandemic and actually tamp down on that shit

At this point I believe it's just cognitive dissonance, everyone said it was time to stop masking, and repeated a bunch of thought terminating simple explanations as to why, and the mandates all dropped, so it was normalized. Accepting that they should still mask at conventions now has implications for what they should do day to day, at the store, and what they should have done over the past year or two, so they reject the new thing instead of doing some self refelection

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

well you're talking about people who attends DSA convention, only a few true leftists will be there, most are Berniecrats.

[-] NotARobot@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

The new elected majority to the NPC (highest body in the org) are of the left/marxist side of the DSA. Now of those you have a lot of neokautskyists and the like but they deserve a little more credit than berniecrats.

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Masks should be required at conventions even if we magically made all covid disappear today. I don’t want your cold, your flu, or your strep either!

Ironically the pandemic has taught me that disease spread is actually much more possible to manage and prevent and we simply choose not to. With a couple years of dedicated effort that isn’t even that difficult as a society we could pretty much eliminate contagious disease. Imagine never getting the flu, or even a cold again. This is the world that capitalism keeps us from.

[-] beef_curds@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I'll never travel again without a mask on the airport/plane/train. It fucking sucked to get the crud while I was on vacation, and it was like 50/50 whether I'd get something.

Airports and conventions are like these big petri dishes where everyone tracks in their bugs from all corners of the world and then take them back home. It's wild that any of them don't require masks. Convention crud was a meme before covid, and it sucks.

[-] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Airports are so gross. The last flight I was one there were two people clearly sick and coughing up their lungs without masks.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh god I know. I got sick so often when I flew. The only time I've left North America in my whole life I spent half of the week I was in London in bed sick. It was awful. Never again.

And I got con crud a bunch of times, too. In fact the only time I didn't get Con Crud was when I was staffing a kissing booth and we were all swigging vodka between kisses for sanitation reasons.

🫦 kissing booths are not sanitary eww I was young and dumb. If you're going to do a kissing booth have, like, plastic wrap or something to use as a sanitary barrier. 🫦

[-] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Hospitals are even worse and yet somehow I've seen like half the people there not wearing masks which is just absolutely wild

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Masks should be required. We should all wear masks all the time. Source: The Dread Pirate Roberts

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[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, influenza B was eradicated locally even with our very performative COVID measures, zero wastewater detection and no confirmed local cases for months on end. Stayed that way until mask mandates were dropped.

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

there's a lot of radical people within DSA, wouldn't be surprised if this is was because of pressure from them. There's a movement trying to do a hard break from the democratic party from my understanding, don't know how big or likely it is to happen though

[-] macabrett@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I think it's a fair and valid criticism of the DSA. They hold some generally leftist positions, but overall they're in line with the "progressive" wing of the democratic party.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

one could argue it's a bit of a stretch to even call their community and audience "leftist" to begin with

Sure, but you could say that about any electoralist outfit. They're still a powerful organizing body and they've proven successful at influencing policy by sheer weight of numbers. If you're going the electoralist route, I've seen much worse.

for the slate of candidates that have been out there.....

Half the motivating force behind the DSA is the fact that mainstream candidates do suck. Cultivating younger and more radical leadership, then promoting those leaders to high office is a major motivating factor in the movement.

If the only thing that comes out of DSA is a new generation of experienced organizers and leaders, I'd call the community a success.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

they kind of burn through key organizers though. it's hard to be in the org for more than a few years if you actually do work.

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[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

DSA is very inclusive

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[-] jabrd@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Haha my brother just got covid from going to dirty myrtle. It’s not gone people agony-deep

[-] Juice@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Real impressed by all the fedposting armchairs ITT who are the real DSA understanders, not those of us who spent 3 months planning for the convention and pulled 16-18 hour days all weekend trying to improve the org (which we got a good start on) and network with other leftists to bring resources and support back to the workers organizing in our cities. You all are the real leftists, I dont know what we would do without your keyboards.

If you weren't at the commie caucus party at UE hall raising money for striking workers in Erie, if you werent on the picket line supporting striking queer nightclub workers, if you spent this weekend watching anime and still have the energy to post a priori bullshit that you think makes you a radical, save yourself the energy and just pigpoop

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[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

This is the coolest thing the DSA has done, that I know of at least. Masks are fucking awesome. I haven't gotten sick since I started wearing them. Also they hide my face so people cant see me laughing at them and muttering to myself.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

"Shut the fuck up, you fucking dipshits" is a big mood for me.

I'm so tired of having the barest fucking consideration for other people being an "issue." Or it's a twisted narrative about whatever these people think is political. We're all dying on the same rock, being nice isn't that hard. Just put on your goddamn mask.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dear leftists that don't want to mask to protect others (including the vulnerable), please post your sad faces on Twitter so I can at least get a little satisfaction from this pandemic and all the suffering I get from your selfishness.

Even in 2020-2021, during the fucking mask mandates, I had to stop doing heaps of shit I enjoy because you dipshits can't follow simple requests to save lives. Go watch a film? Nope. Coffee shops? Gone forever. Gyms? None for me. Mass transit and food shopping? Yes because I have to, but fuck I'm terrified. Work? Sadly yes but you fucking need to put the fear of death in me.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

geordi-no Leftists?

geordi-yes LIB

[-] macabrett@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I'm actually pleasantly surprised the DSA did this. It felt like DSA members moved on from the pandemic as fast as they could. Good job this time, DSA.

[-] FuckYourselfEndless@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Solidarity, friends. It's hard out there. Might as well get used to trying to push the buttons of anti-mask dipshits. We at least have the truth on our side. They just have 'convenience'.

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[-] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

fedposting Mask mandate is too far...