Author who recommended killing Palestinian journalists receives German ‘peace prize’ : nottheonion

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm curious as to what's the opinion of an average German about this? Because this is so fucked up - a right-winger fascist gets a peace prize? Now that's a new one.

[-] Pirasp@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

So, average German here. Person I have never heard of gets an award I've never heard of. Doesn't seem very peaceful to me tho.

I'd say I'm interested in hearing the reasoning, but that would be a lie. It's been a while since I cared about any such awards.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah, anyone can just make up an award and give it to anyone. Thats not even really newsworthy.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

No real opinion about it, tbh.

It's a "price" handed out by a for-profit conglomerate, so it's not really something I ever thought about in all the years it very briefly came up. In fact this is the first I'm reminded about it existing in 4 years or so? I doubt most germans have ever heard of the "Börsenverein", nevermind it's "price" or this author or what she wrote.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Börseverein" basically means "Stock Market Club". At least they're not subtle.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 3 points 1 month ago

Ahh rent seekers and money changers club supporting the genocide state

man can't make this up

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Par for the course from the country that reintegrated its Nazis.

[+] some_guy -13 points 1 month ago

I’m no nazi apologist, but given how many members of the party were average people who didn’t take part in the genocide, I don’t really know what else you’d expect. Yes, probably a lot more higher ups and definitely anyone who had direct knowledge of the camps should have been up for war crimes, but what about the schlub who repaired people’s plumbing?

Fuck all nazis. See a nazi, punch a nazi. All that jazz.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

My shirt saying "I'm no nazi apologist, but..." has people asking a lot of questions that are already answered by my shirt

[-] some_guy 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck off. I raised the point that vilifying people who had party affiliation but no real participation is wrong and that's valid. I hate that my mother votes for Trump, but that doesn't make her evil. She's bigoted and misguided. She's certainly no Steve Bannon.

Further, contemporary nazis have no excuse while in early-20th Germany there was far less access to non-state information. My mother's a useful idiot to the right whereas modern day nazis know exactly what they're supporting. Modern nazism gets no benefit of the doubt.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I raised the point that vilifying people who had party affiliation but no real participation is wrong and that's valid

So I saw your shirt and and that made me have some questions. Explain the difference between your Nazi apologia and the clean Wehrmacht myth.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

they joined the nazi party, mate. they went and did it. it's not like someone drove by and threw a membership book at them and boom, they were now nazis. they went and deliberately joined the most racist party.

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Bruh there were no innocent Nazis this is a form of Holocaust denial

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Fuck all nazis. See a nazi, punch a nazi. All that jazz.

Nah dude fuck all the way off you don't get to defend ACTUAL NAZI PARTY MEMBERS and then say that.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The average German thinks skwawkbox isn't a reliable source.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

obama-drone

[+] sunzu@kbin.run -17 points 1 month ago

Israel has the right to exist bro which also covers an ethnic cleansing to make ww2 right

That's about the only thing a German can muster up nowadays it seems.

[-] sparkle@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I think people misinterpreted your comment. I read it as "Israel has the right to exist bro, which includes ethnic cleansing to right the wrongs of WW2". You know, sarcastically

[-] sunzu@kbin.run -1 points 1 month ago

U read it right but I think so did most of down voters, they just don't want to accept that this is really how the logic works.

Normal person can't accept that the world works like this it seems. So they will enable it to work like this lol

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

which also covers an ethnic cleansing to make ww2 right

What brain damage do you have?

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 1 month ago

Common sense dear :)

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

If "Common sense" is rationalize genocide, then I don't need it. Seriously. Your types normally deny it. Now you're just encouraging an endless cycle of violence. In 20 to 30 years, when the surviving Palestinian kids have grown up and gotten their own resources, are you just going to be fine with them attacking Israel or burning synagogues? Cause accounting to your logic, it would be their turn.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 1 month ago

You are attacking the messenger... This is the time line we got and this is the logic currently employed by zionists, israel and their acolytes.

They clearly don't care about how Palestinian children grow up... if at all.

So under their, logic yes, it seems that's what they want so they can finish the genocide.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You are attacking the messenger…

No, I'm criticizing the propagandist.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 1 month ago

It would be propaganda if it was not true.

If you got issue with above thesis, please provide a counter argument that would explain away current situation better.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

There is no "truth" to the way the world works. Only people perpetuating a status quo by parroting propaganda.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Regular Nobel Prize Recipient Barack "Blow up Doctors Without Borders" Obama: Amateurs

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

You're going to have to back that one up...

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

You imply that Obama had a direct hand in the decision. Instead, the US military fucked up, and Obama issued an apology.

That's a far cry from writing an article recommending the bombing of Palestinian radio stations.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Oh, right, the military made a little whoopsiedoo when they deliberately committed that war crime and stopped all investigations. We should blame the guy in charge of the military. Commander in Chief... Barack Obama?

I'm sure the families of the victims were moved by the apologies and the $6000.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Journalistic standards in the West is how hard you blow the establishment.

[-] khapyman@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 month ago

The article has some really weird parts underlining somebody's anti-Russian and pro-Ukrainian while discussing Gaza/Israel -situation. It's like there's one larger eastern power killing indiscriminantly a smaller population west of them. And per article it's horrific when it's Gaza but somehow it's US and UK imperialism when Russians are killing/raping/pillagin in Ukraine.

I'd take the source with a grain of salt.

[-] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Neither of these conflicts are indiscriminate killings. Israel is deliberately targeting civilians and children. Russia is targeting military targets. It's not through pure chance that Israel has killed over a hundred times as many children.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] some_guy 18 points 1 month ago

This lady can eat my ass. What a piece of shit.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

Why would you grant her that honor?

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 5 points 1 month ago

I don't know about your ass, but I'm pretty sure mine tastes like shit

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah but what if she's into that

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

What's more German than trying to achieve peace through genocide.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago

Nazi*

[-] Pearlwford@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

hitler-detector The German skull has a unique bump which makes them genetically fascist.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

https://hexbear.net/post/2409833

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Any downvoters want to comment or is it just bigotry?

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