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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by ButtBidet@hexbear.net to c/covid@hexbear.net

It's just super frustrating seeing people who are supposedly my brothers and sisters, who I've been there to the hilt, who know that my partner is struggling, who know that I'm terrified. We've gone through the science and racial and class inequalities together and they've voiced how they should mask a hundred times. And then they come to meet me IRL totally fucking unmasked, without even a fucking apology.

Well, if you're "back to normal", I'll sit and watch you eat outside, but I'm not taking my mask off in front of you. I'll wait till you finish your meal, and I'll head home early. If I've complained about no masking two times already, you heard it enough, I'm not going to complain again.

Am I overreacting?

Edit: for those of griping that you're not allowed to do COVID minimisation in this comm. These would be valid answer:

  • Maybe your friend forgot
  • Maybe your friend was tired
  • Maybe your friend was hung over
  • Your friend made a mistake but you should forgive him
  • I'm not yet fully covid conscious, but I'm trying
  • We can't all be perfect. Hopefully they do better next time.

Not acceptable:

  • Oh here's a tidbit about masks that's been disproven in the science literature 10x already
  • Oh the chuds and libs aren't masking, and I feel peer pressured
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[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 58 points 6 months ago

blob-no bugs-no

Anyone out there who has gone "back to normal" when:

  1. Covid obviously isn't over and researchers are out there pointing out we're heading towards disaster.
  2. We watched them sociologically end the pandemic in real time at the request of businesses, completely at odds with science.
  3. Immunocompromised folks are literally out there begging people to mask and not abandon them the way the government has.

Is a LIB Full Stop.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Thanks for your response. And obviously I agree with you. It's just harder when I see leftists (MLs, Trots, Anarchists, etc) pull this. I just have much higher standards for them.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Everyone in the west is still susceptible to the liberal ideology of good vibes and tasty treats at any cost. Most of the people I know would spread COVID if it meant they get to go to a shitty bar or boring movie theater.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

Welcome. As you should. These people are deeply unserious and should be ashamed of themselves.

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[-] ObamaSama@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

I can understand the sentiment that Covid is “over” since absolutely nobody takes it seriously or takes any preventative measures now. The media has completely stopped reporting on it and the CDC has even stopped counting COVID related deaths. Society seems to have decided to just move on, consequences be damned.

However, it still hurts every time I hear people completely dismiss it as a thing of the past when my own mother fucking died from it just six months ago. Yeah, please let her know that it’s over and not to worry, that’s what killed her. Sure, the average young healthy person has been vaccinated and/or already had it multiple times so it’s no big deal to them but there are still a LOT of other at risk groups that could easily die. It’s not like the virus has been eradicated, we’ve just collectively decided that those people’s lives are worth less than going to a packed Taylor swift concert.

So no, it’s not unreasonable at all to ask your friends to show some basic fucking respect and wear a mask around you and your partner. People are still dying from covid every day so I don’t question the validity of your concern in the slightest. If your friends are actual comrades and capable of understanding the way Covid deaths have been politicized perhaps a gentle reminder that the current administration is doing its best to sweep ongoing Covid deaths under the rug to give Biden a “win” would help

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[-] nothx@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

NOPE! While I try not to actively show it, I do harbor resentment towards my friends who have gone "back to normal". The main difference is that my friends are mostly libs, so its not unexpected or surprising, but still frustrating and sad.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

While I try not to actively show it, I do harbor resentment towards my friends who have gone "back to normal".

This is exactly me. Although I did have a small community of left people who all masked, but it seems to be deteriorating. Now the only one I can trust is my partner. I guess I'm lucky in that regards.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Yup, my partner is also the only person that is on the same page as me. Neither of us will do indoor dining at restaurants, we mask in pretty much all public areas, we are still buying tests and using them when we feel off... The next closest people are out best friends, but even they will go to a restaurant on occasion. However, at least they respect our stance and will accomodate and understand our positions.

The world seems to be shrinking and I am lucky enough to have a partner who agrees with me, I've seen couples that are at odds with each other over COVID and I don't really understand how they overcome that. Not only the COVID part, but the fundamental differences in general at that point...

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

fidel-salute

Your relationship and my relationship is pretty much the same. I wish we were in the same city to hang out.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

rat-salute-2

Would love some more COVID conscious friends! I am actually moving farther away from my closest city now too, so hopefully that helps me.

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

I recommend Death Panel's episode about that whinging NPR COVID "perspective". There are literally dozens of us out here still masking. sankara-salute

[-] fart@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago

masks are a good litmus test cuz it's something that actually makes a material difference at the cost of your social capital and looking cool. Really easy to see what people value more. I know so many people that love posting radical stuff on instagram but somehow cant put on a mask.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Not to mention the fact that it takes only a few seconds of effort. It's much less effort than voting, for instance.

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

I don't think it's weird to be disappointed, but also any other answer is going to get removed according to the rules of comm

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[-] Spike@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

As long as Covid is around you are right to be disappointed. I will always wear a mask

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Disability solidarity defines the left just as surely as Palestine solidarity or trans solidarity. Unchecked covid will make everyone disabled over time, and unchecked health chauvinism will make it easier to forget those who drop out of public life, whether by developing debilitating long covid conditions (acknowledged as such or not), or by adopting lonely precautions, or both.

Also masking makes it less simple for cops and cameras to ID you, and can be an accessible and immediate source of relief for trans people who want to conceal unwanted puberty effects on their face. The more people stubbornly mask, the more cover is offered to the most exposed and vulnerable, along multiple intersections.

When you wear a mask, you're wearing communism. When you refuse to wear a mask, you're wearing the emperor's new clothes point-and-laugh-1point-and-laugh-2

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

There are people on this very website who sit inside the Covid death traps called movie theaters to watch their slop and expect you to just ignore the fact that they're sitting in the Covid death trap. They can't even patiently wait a couple of months to watch a pirated copy of the slop. No, they insist on sitting in the Covid death trap to watch their slop.

Forget the outside world, Covid normalization has thoroughly penetrated even here. Just look at all the posts that are being removed in this very thread.

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[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

Honestly, if its people that know your situation and you've pointed it out multiple time and they still go meet you unmasked, then no. Its not weird to be disappointed.

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[-] macabrett@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

nah I'm extremely disappointed too

I don't get in fights about it anymore, but I think I've just sort of slipped into a general depression over it all

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

I totally thought this was going to be about hiding your lefty power level and not literal masks because i never read what comm things are posted in

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Lol I do that too. I have a lot of socdems in my org who are getting into Marx for the first time, or reading Chomsky. God I want to push Lenin and Parenti on them.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

weird, yes, because "normal" people in the west are garbage about this

overreacting, no. we need excuses for the lack of terror

[-] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Absolutely not. I work in the public sector and masking is socially definitely not ok. So to be able to earn a living, I have given up my safety and the safety of my partner and replaced it with avoidance of all I can avoid and a nasal spray. I mask whenever I get to do things in my own way.

This is a country where I have not seen a single mask in years now and not heard a single person irl voice concern about covid. Meanwhile me and my partner have had a rough time with the virus every time, although I suppose less than the people doing "normal" as I for example opted out from in person studies fully last winter due to the wave and everyone being sick.

Non-masking as a hegemonic position literally shuts people out of society. I would have loved to be present for my own bacherol seminars, but it didn't feel safe. It erodes the very participation libs always love to bang on about. And it's very much a class issue. It's workers like me that die from it, care workers, immigrants, women, the poors, the disabled, elderly. It's also a whiteness issue. White people, even leftists, stopped caring the moment they understood that their privileged asses are safer.

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[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

If masking is a personal choice, you also have the personal choice to not hang out with people who are inconsiderate.

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[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

yikes mask off

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