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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Templa@beehaw.org to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/14909762

It seems YT started another attempt at blocking alternative clients. They changed something in their API and both SmartTube and Tubular (NewPipe fork) are completely broken. Apparently it started happening this past week, but we personally just felt it today.

Edit: SmartTube already has an update but still not working for 4K videos it seems. Tubular still not working but it might be due to the upstream (NewPipe) is still working on a fix.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

I've been trying for a while now to integrate torrents properly into lemmy, just need more time for testing and demonstration. Torrents really are the only way forward for video content, youtube will just keep getting worse and worse.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

That's an interesting concept. Thought how will it work for mobile users? Uploading there is often costly, both in the limited data plan and battery life.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Like most torrents currently... most seeders have lots of HD space and network bandwidth, and are happy to share to the occasional leech as long as the torrents stay alive.

Also there are some mobile clients like libretorrent that can be set to turn on only when plugged in.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

Ok, but.. hmm. Do you have statistics on the share between desktop and mobile users? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think most browse lemmy from a phone. Most torrents work fine because most torrenters do that on a PC, but relatively very few on a phone. I'm honestly interested if you have some info on that.

In any case, I hope it works out because I would love if it would. Thanks for your work!

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[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago

The same is happening with NewPipe.

[-] Dymonika@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

Dang... yep, experiencing the same... Finally. It had lasted for so long...

[-] Nima@leminal.space 4 points 1 month ago

they're working on a fix. don't order a coffin just yet.

[-] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

Yeah, my kid got to see a bunch of ads today.

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago

sounds horrible, yesterday I couldn't watch a video on Tubular so I just didn't watch it.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago

Me, today. But with newpipe. YouTube isn't a necessity. It's an entertainment. The moment it becomes too annoying to use, is the moment we stop using it. That's how entertainment products work... or should work.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

Except it's not only entertainment. There's tons of the useful kind of content too, including repair videos.

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[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

Freetube on desktop has been working somewhat being able to switch to invidious. But for Android I've fallen back to Firefox + Ublock Origin + Sponsorblock.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 7 points 1 month ago

freetube has an android app as well. it's in beta but it's been working pretty well for me.

it's worth giving a shot.

[-] Templa@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

I am yet to find an alternative for AndroidTV.

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

If you have iOS and airplay support you can use safari to airplay YouTube to the TV. I use the 1blocker and sponsorblock extension for safari.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Have you tried SmartTube? I'd say that's what most people use on Android TV to get rid of ads.

https://smarttubeapp.github.io/

[-] Qkall@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

It's broken too fam ... I'm in shambles

(Okay, actually, I'm fine... But it is annoying)

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Oh sorry, thought the question was about finding an app in general.

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[-] codenul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Had some issues with Free tube last couple days. Free tube came out with an update, 0.21.1 and fixed the loading issue, at least for me

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah was happy to see it solved in only a day.

[-] treasure@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago
[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 13 points 1 month ago

Will this be how I'll finally be able to ditch the last Google service I'm still using? That would be a win for me.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago

This is a regular occurence. Google breaks the newpipe extractor > Devs take 2-3 days > Its fixed and working > repeat every few weeks/months

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 1 month ago

Interesting that right now on the same home network all the same apps still work on my phone but not on the Chromecast anymore (I watch mostly on TV.

[-] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

My working theory is that it has something do with YT trying to add ads directly in to the stream. This messes up timestamps and other metadata about the video and these clients don't know how to deal with it yet.

[-] treasure@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

In the case of Tubular (a NewPipe fork), the issue is getting code 403 (Forbidden), which prevents playing the video. It occurred sporadically while playing videos for some time but could always be fixed with a restart. Now this occurs at the very start while trying to play a video for all people at the same time. I'm strongly suspecting that this is a move aimed specifically at 3rd party players.

[-] Dymonika@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

Clever engineers.

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

If that does happen and adblocker doesn't work one work around that works for twitch will probably be vpn to a country where ads aren't shown.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 10 points 1 month ago

I got issues with both yt-dlp and Newpipe's downloader as well.

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

The moment they cut the cord on SmartTube (Android TV), I'll block youtube on my local DNS. Fuck them!

[-] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

I don't understand it, but going through various githubs, the problem has been discovered. Here it is:

YouTube changed their code to make it more difficult to extract the throttling parameter decryption function.

There was some coding demonstrating the problem but it was way over my head. Hopefully fixes are coming soon as the issue was marked as urgent. It looks like they know what needs changing.

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Invidious is working fine, as of now.

[-] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

SmartTube is back up this morning after an update.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Tubular and NewPipe both barely working all day for me. Maybe 1 out of 10 vids loads. Downloading fails too.

[-] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

I find it useful changing instances in invidious, there is usually at least one up and running. You could use Clipious or Materialious apps on Android for easy access. Btw I once had Tubular, Newpipe, Libretube(piped.video) and Clipious installed all at the same time because of the same issues with Youtube attacking privacy front ends.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago

i recommend the freetube android beta. its working well for me at the moment.

[-] intothesky@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Does someone know why Grayjay still works perfectly?

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Btw, i never saw server side appps. Is it limited for now?

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Piped/LibreTube seem to be dying now as well

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just keep changing instances until you find one that works

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[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Is revanced still working?

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[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

PipePipe works with V3.5.0

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