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Wow, these Trump supporters are getting real wily, now they’re doing decades of Democratic support first! /s
Biden had one bad debate and motherfuckers are coming out of the woodwork to condemn him. Meanwhile, Trump, the convicted felon, can say and do whatever the fuck he wants and you don’t hear shit against him from republicans. Democrats better learn real quick that the game has changed. Keep turning the other cheek and you’re just going to get slapped again.
People push back against Trump on a near constant basis, pointing out Biden’s flaws isn’t an endorsement of Trump.
People do, you and I push back against Trump. Retired republicans push back against Trump. But how many current Republicans in office do you see doing what democrats are doing to Biden right now? How many do you see calling for him to step aside? Is it one, two, three republicans in office? Remember, I’m not asking for those who oppose Trump like Lisa Murkowski or Susan “He’s learned his lesson” Collins. I’m talking about a two or three week thrashing on national media with the help of the media. How many?
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In his op-ed Clooney detailed that during his time with Biden several weeks prior that Biden was just like he was during the debate… Which is a very important day point indicating that the debate was not just “one bad night” but rather a consistent condition.
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Oh yes, let's completely change the candidate 4 MONTHS before the election. That really sounds like a winning strategy. Let's get rid of the candidate that has been a Vice President for 8 years and is the sitting President of 3.5 years. Let's replace the candidate that has done more for the US than any other republican president. Let's make sure we replace Joe Biden so that the psychopathic dictator wanna-be 'donald the con man trump' can be installed as our illiterate king. That's going to solve all the problems we have. Finally Democracy will go away. And Freedom will end. It's about time, how boring and valueless those things are. Women can finally become property again, and all the non-white people will be deported. Everyone will be required to attend church on Sunday and give 10% of their income to the church. No more alcohol, parties, sex. We will finally be a moral land again. The christian version of Sharia will be implemented. Wages will be the lowest in history and we can finally build walls around the nation to keep people out and Americans trapped inside, just like East Germany used to be.
Personally I'm voting for Joe Biden, even if he is in a COMA! I value my Freedom and Biden has been doing a great job for Americans.
I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but it is kind of insane that we think 4 months is way too late to change candidates, when other countries do their whole election cycle in a month.
As Jon Stewart and many others have already pointed out -Two of our closest allies just recently managed to announce and host national elections in a matter of weeks. It's nothing short of absurd that we allegedly can't even field a new candidate for a single party in the course of four months.
I wish our system was theirs.
But historically, in the US, the candidate with the biggest war chest wins the election.
Biden has considerably more than Trump. Inertia alone is almost certain to guarantee that Trump loses with Biden on the ticket. That being said, one of the only times this wasn't true meant Trump became president.
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True, other countries are shorter. But in America, it's 2 YEARS of political garbage. We need proper Federal election laws and one of those limits the time we have to be subjected to the campaigns. It should be less than 6 months from start to finish with mandatory debates so Voters can tune in and be easily informed. Right now it's just chaos and disinformation. And the US press has abandoned journalism. We now have Fox News 1. Fox 2 (NYT), Fox 3 (WSJ), etc. The UK transferred power in 24 hours. 4 months is getting very late in the game for the US, where everything takes longer than a trip to Pluto. This is not the year to piss around, it may be the last time anyone votes ever.
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If all the Democrats and "liberal" news stations and pundits spent half as much of their time bitching that Biden should drop out on figuring out WHO should replace him this wouldn't be such a problem. If they could just agree on a new nominee maybe Biden would consider dropping out. Because right now Biden has to consider it when there's no alternative.
People suggesting Biden drop out without a plan on how to proceed are doing the Republicans' jobs for them. Or they are Trump supporters.
Dude, you can literally Google it. There's dozens of articles and talking points suggesting a handful of names. It's right there. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It's becoming really fucking clear just how much of an echochamber the Dems also live in while simultaneously mocking Trumpers for being in theirs.
And yet you didn't bother to supply even 1 name. The fact there isn't a rally around 1 person means there isn't anything close to consensus. So it's just tearing down the only chance we've got.
Or at I put it: helping Trump win. Good job.
The names are like Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, Buttigieg, etc., but getting everyone to agree to one of those is a long shot. I'm not convinced that switching to any of those people would give the Dems a better chance at winning the election.
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Are you going to vote for him if he isn't the nominee?
He will be the nominee.
But will you vote for someone else if he isnt?
Never vote for the GOP. So yes, I will vote Dem.
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If AOC challenged him then I'd support her.
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Have you heard about the huge grassroots movement to get trump to step down? Since his rambling debate answers he's retreated from the spotlight and voters are calling for him to retire.
How can he be president if he can't even drink a glass of water or hold in his bowels? It's a big deal and everyone is talking about it.
Yeah, we've heard of it. We've been saying it for like a decade now.
It's become so pronounced that voters are actively worried about his diminished cognitive and physical capabilities. He's had 4 years of declining health since his COVID induced weakness.
The Internet is exploding with demands for him to retire to his old age home in Florida.
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Regardless of whether it would have been the more advantageous decision to run Biden before all of this - health and all - it's increasingly clear that our best choice is going to be replacing Biden on the ticket. Not thrilled about it. I don't know that this was worth throwing away a massive incumbent and name recognition advantage, but it's a moot point - too many public figures on Biden's side have came out in opposition. That track is rendered much less friendly by this public discourse. Our best chance now is in Biden stepping down.
As much as I hate to say it, this is likely a choice about which donors still support him vs. his chances of winning, or what any of the mere mortals in the voting bloc want.
If enough donors bail (and it looks like Clooney is a major fundraiser), that will likely seal the deal much more so than looking at Biden's dismal, impossible-to-win numbers or polling Democratic voters about what they want...
"I want a different nominee" does not mean "I won't support Biden if he is the nominee".
Clooney is directly responsible for that "40 million dollar night" Biden had.
It's actually becoming increasingly clear that there is no replacement for Biden. We have polling data now and none of the other options come close to Biden.
Yeah I'm with you. There's too much inertia against him now. The Biden team needs to approach Biden with a plan to get him to step aside, not just ask him to consider it. They need to identify replacement candidate(s) ASAP and get them in front of voters. Starting from scratch right now is gonna be tough, but it's absolutely winnable in this climate.
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George Clooney tanky confirmed!
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