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Making it worse is that many games don't punish you for things we'd consider pretty "evil". Like, you can walk into people's houses and search their cupboards and other containers for useful things, and it's mostly not considered stealing. So, as long as you choose the nice dialogue option when talking to them you stay good.

A real good vs. evil choice would be one where resources are always tight, and you constantly meet people who need your help along the way. Helping them stretches your resources even more. Or, have people who are able to help you, but you have to stretch the truth about who you are or about your goals to get their support.

...Halligan? Is that you?

I want to play a game as a Machiavellian figure with good intentions who struggles over the course of the game to maintain the deceptions keeping everything running. The game shouldn't present anything as good or bad, but rather an accumulating, eventually overwhelming amount of context for any given decision.

You could make real money in Eve doing that.

What you want is Knights of the Old Republic, best game to play an evil character ever

You sound like a guy who'd get his suit from Woolworth's

The problem is that people don't treat you differently for being evil. Yeah, you might have hitsquads coming after you, maybe a companion or two won't follow you. But the same happens to good characters. There's absolutely no weight to your actions. You can literally slaughter half the wasteland in broad daylight and people will still talk to you as if you're just a typical person. I always end up having evil karma because I steal everything not nailed down and yet I'm still considered a hero by everybody. It's only gotten worse in games like Fallout 4.

Too many games I've seen conflate being evil with being a jerk. Few games let you play the 'long game' where you are specifically nice and cooperative to deceive and manipulate. I think this partly due to decisions being made modular and point to point. Your overall morality then is calculated as some form of average of all the decisions you made. Mass effect series comes to mind.

But if you want to play as a scheming villain the opposite should be the case: you set your primary long term goal (eg taking over a country or institution) and then your actions are chosen in the vein of that goal. And those actions might in isolation actually be seen as beneficial or benign. But you ultimately do them to gain trust or deceive.

I kind of enjoyed how Oblivion handled things as completing Dark Brotherhood or Thieves Guild quests gave you infamy that made good characters dislike you and evil characters like you more. Though there still is a lot of jank in that game (part of the charm imo).

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Your goal is to prevent five girls from getting killed

Damn, sounds like dating has totally changed since I was single.

I have more slaves, exotic dancers, and drugs in EvE. Not quite so many war crimes though

If you hurt Mr.Mittins the Muffalo entire colony will take turns removing limbs and feeding them back to you.

Even in mass effect? Evil shepherd has some of the best dialogue. I never got as much satisfaction from a game when I let all the council dweebs die for being idiots.

RDR2 as well, some of the rude comments Arthur says are hilarious. And you're a rough and tough cowboy so it kinda fits.

In Factorio you pollute, but there isn't much evidence the native critters are intelligent. They sure don't act intelligent. There also doesn't seem to be any way to live in harmony with them.