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Is anaconda download page considered dark pattern? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by inspxtr@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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It’s been a while since I last downloaded anaconda. But I remember when clicking on the download page, it would show the usual “choose your OS > download binary” (eg this archived version in 2019).

Recently I helped someone else set it up and it showed a form to put on email, with smaller gray text near the bottom of the form about skipping it.

Does this count as a dark pattern?

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 93 points 1 month ago

Yes. This is a dark pattern.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 65 points 1 month ago

For those dark pattern email boxes I like entering things like admin@[website that's serving a dark pattern mailbox] or marketing@website because 50% of the time it just gives me whatever without any trouble and the other 50% of the time I clear cookies and consider if I really need whatever they're gating behind harvesting my email...

[-] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That is a great alternative to sfgdgsgshajdjajshags@gmail.com, I'll also feel less bad about accidentally hitting a real email.

[-] lars 7 points 1 month ago

I never expected anyone to guess my address. Thanks a lot.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

This is such a great idea lol

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

haha nice. I’ll try that next time

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

I like yaya@erewhon.com (sorry to the admin, it means nowhere, I assume it's like /dev/null) Just like everyone should be using 01/01/1970 for a birthdate

[-] WhiteBerry@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Please stop doxxing me. JK but I use 01/01/1980 for some reason.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 month ago

They hit two dark patterns out of a possible seven.

I should make a browser plug-in that finds dark patterns and reverses them.

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

can you clarify on the 7?

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 month ago

First two: using color and button size/placement to guide clicks

The ones they didn’t do:

Misdirection of reason for interacting with elements
pre-selecting the checkbox
making the background elements a clickbox
using colors to scare user into a certain action
using text to scare user into a certain action

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

thanks for clarifying! that’s really helpful!

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. I didn't spot the link for skipping registration until someone pointed it out.

[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 18 points 1 month ago

Yes and also not sure why you'd use Anaconda. What's wrong with plain regular Python?

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

thanks for confirming my suspicion. as for your question, conda in general is good for installing non-python binaries when needed, and managing env. I don’t use anaconda but it provides a good enough interface for beginners and folks without much coding experience. It’s usually the easiest to use that than other variants for them, or the python route of setting up environments

[-] Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge with mamba is so much better

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Conda package manager is like pip on steroids. It's great for science, especially when working on Linux servers where you don't have root

[-] ftbd@feddit.de 3 points 1 month ago

What's the benefit over pip in a venv?

[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Pip in a venv doesn't get you non python tools.

Conda also has venvs, for seperate environments for stuff as well.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Conda environments can encapsulate more than just Python packages, it brings the pip/venv model to the ecosystems of many languages (R, Go, etc.), and does so at the user level rather than in a folder for one project. The other Anaconda stuff is pretty useless IMO, but Conda is exceptionally useful. Although I would echo what the other commentor said that the mambaforge version is even better than vanilla miniconda

[-] wesker 9 points 1 month ago

That'd be a big NOPE from me.

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

“NOPE” as in “not a dark pattern” or as in “I’m not touching this site”? if former, can you clarify on the reason?

[-] wesker 13 points 1 month ago

Sorry, I meant I wouldn't touch it.

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

gotcha, thanks for clarifying :)

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