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[-] Denvil@lemmy.one 123 points 1 month ago

"Shot an unpopular politician"

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

(Yes ik Trump)

[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago
[-] scytale@lemm.ee 50 points 1 month ago

It’s kinda true in the sense that:

  • One side hates him because he tried to kill their god.

  • Another side hates him because he missed.

  • And another side hates him for attempting it in the first place because all it does is make an already very unstable political situation even worse no matter the outcome.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm guessing it's closer to 190 nations. (Trump, not the assassin)

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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, define "popular politician" / " unpopular politician." Does the fact that the media constantly shoves all these yahoos in our faces make these political figures popular? Unpopular? It's all corrupt and I hate every mention of ANY politician's names, while some people choose politicians to cheer for like it's a fekkin sports team.

[-] botorfj@lemdro.id 88 points 1 month ago

did I really learn about an assassination attempt thru lemmy

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago

Isn’t that the point of Lemmy? So you don’t have to rawdog news?

[-] botorfj@lemdro.id 15 points 1 month ago

yeah i suppose that’s better

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[-] supertrucker@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Oh, you want your news filtered, but you will happily rawdog Becky who may or may not have Clamidia

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[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 month ago

Same, felt weird.

Beyond that, I learned about it via a particularly cold meme.

[-] HaleHirsute@infosec.pub 25 points 1 month ago

I was glad to see that meme to remember the anecdote. Valuable info in these times.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

For me it was 4chan's technology board /g/ of all places

Happened last night yeah. Ive been stunned there isn't more in the news yet already, but the day is young.

I think TDogs ear got hit?

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I learned through KnowYourMeme.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 65 points 1 month ago

There was a time when America could reliably produce assassins who could kill both presidential candidates and even sitting presidents. What the he'll happened? Deindustralization? Too much porn and video games?

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 47 points 1 month ago

I think you'll see plenty of attempts after this, some inspired by it and others in retaliation. Fun times for the US

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 28 points 1 month ago

Secret service will step up their security after this, so another attempt as close as this is unlikely

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago

Failed attempts are enough to escalate things. And with enough attempts, some especially against smaller targets might succeed. It's gonna get intetesting

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 6 points 1 month ago

I’m pretty sure Secret Service is well aware of this, so they will escalate their security accordingly.

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The same Secret Service who left one of the only buildings in the area unsecured? Who when told there was a shooter by the crowd, ignored them? Making a lot of assumptions about competency here when that's already directly in question.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Damn, did they hire the Secret Service from Uvalde or something?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I don't doubt that, I'm sure they're doing their best

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Umm... Shouldn't the first attempt have been unlikely? This literally proves Secret Service isn't as competent as you believe.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 month ago

You are all talking about Abe's assassination, but forgetting this happened

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That act weakened the Japanese Socialist party (center-left), emboldened the far-right, caused copycats and ensured the current party stayed in power for most of the twentieth century.

That's not to say that Asanuma was a scummy maoist and had forced his party to support the terrible war in Asia.

[-] greenskye@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago

I've honestly been really surprised that this was the only 'real' assassination attempt in recent memory. I was surprised that no one went after Obama, nor Trump after him and Biden after him. The rage was so high, yet it's only now that anyone from either side makes a real attempt.

[-] Thomrade@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I'm just making a guess here, but there could have been more attempts that were nippedl in the bud early enough that we have never heard of them, because the would-be assaains were sloppier and got caught.

[-] randy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots#Assassination_attempts_and_plots

You're correct. You'll notice every president in recent history has multiple assassination attempts listed. The bulk of them don't go very far.

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Hierarchy tends to prevent violence by providing an authority to appeal to. So long as there is some process people can take, in hope of redress, they will choose that instead of just stabbing a motherfucker. This applies to interpersonal conflict with your neighbor, or mass conflict between religious groups, indeed everybody seeing a fat old baby commit high crimes on national television. Even if you feel the odds are abysmal, that can be enough to stop you from grabbing your pitchfork with intent to use it.

Belief in those systems is a finite resource.

[-] Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago

the ö's make this even more amusing, as i can't be sure it was an accidental dick-up instead of a nordic memelord giggling themself to sleep.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

The long o (oe or ö) is a sound present in north European languages, and also in many Asian languages, including Japanese.

[-] Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago

am Finnish, so i responded as such. for Japanese, however, you'd use ō instead. that is not an ö. ou is also acceptable.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

You're right, it should be ou here, not oe.

[-] Arello@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

Long o in Finnish is oo, ö is pronounced different and could also be pronounced as long öö.

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[-] RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 12 points 1 month ago
[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

Tetsuya Yamagami. This based mofo killed the imperialist dick-head Shinzo Abe.

[-] bangsnooter@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Wikipedia

On 8 July 2022, Tetsuya Yamagami appeared at the northern exit of Yamato-Saidaiji Station, Nara at 11:30 am, where Shinzo Abe was delivering a campaign speech for a Liberal Democratic Party candidate in the upcoming Upper House election. Abe was positioned inside a traffic island of the crossroad, facing away from the train station. Yamagami was situated behind Abe, with a street separating them. Subsequently, Yamagami began to slowly approach Abe, going unnoticed by Abe's bodyguards. Yamagami then discharged a homemade shotgun, seemingly not hitting anyone in the vicinity. Upon hearing the noise, Abe turned his head to look behind him. Yamagami took a few steps forward and fired a second round. Abe immediately displayed signs of severe pain and collapsed to the ground. Abe's bodyguards rushed towards Yamagami and restrained him on the ground.

Yamagami told investigators that his motive had been personal rather than political.[55][56][57][58] After his mother joined the Unification Church around 1991 to 1998,[a][26] she had given the church about 100 million yen (US$720,000), a parcel of land she had inherited from her father, and the house where she lived with her three children; she subsequently declared bankruptcy in 2002. She had continued donating to the church following the bankruptcy. Yamagami's uncle recalled being contacted by Yamagami and his siblings to complain that they had no food at home, electric bills and house rent were often overdue, prompting the uncle to deliver meals and money for living expenses.

Yamagami blamed the Unification Church for his family's financial problems and held a grudge against the group. Researching the church's connections to Abe in the months before the attack, he believed the former prime minister and his maternal grandfather, former prime minister Nobusuke Kishi, spread the church's influence in Japan.

Yamagami is described by some commentators who wrote for The Economist and The Atlantic as one of the most effective political assassins in recent history. The assassination brought the many social issues with the Unification Church under the spotlight again, as well as tumbled the approval of the ruling party. Under the public pressure, the responsible ministry decided to file a dissolution order against the UC with the Tokyo District Court on 13 October 2023, after nearly a year of investigation of wrongdoings.

[-] Paraponera_clavata@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't call him imperialist, but he repeatedly denied WW2 Japanese war crimes (in particular the Nanking massacre and the use of Korean 'comfort women'). This is the rough equivalent of a German Chancellor denying the Holocaust.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I think that's par for the course for Japanese politicians. A lot of them seem to categorically deny all the atrocities.

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[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

LDP is a conservative party, with members ranging from centre-right, far-right to ultra-conservative. Don't be fooled by the name of the political party. Japan is notorious for it's 1955 System - also known as the "one-and-a-half" party state. And about the imperialist comment - as is obvious from the party dominance - most of the LDP members deny, and don't teach their own history to their citizens. History revisionism is the tool of imperialism - and no one does it as well as the Japanese government.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

The guy that killed Shinzo Abe.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not so sure Shinzo Abe was popular.

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