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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 211 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A lot of conservatives think trrmp is a traitor, too.

I mean, they should. The evidence provides.

But they usually think he betrayed the extremes of their bigotries rather than the country and general decency.

[-] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 months ago

That's good news for the coming election. But I still fear he won't ever be punished for his numerous crimes, the biggest yet to come, the pedo rape connections from the Epstein papers.

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago

My father, a lifetime Republican before Trump, and still a rather fiscally conservative man, was actually conflicted on whether or it would have been better or worse if Trump had died on that stage. He openly calls the man a Fascist these days.

Trump may be a Republican, but it's actually rather generous to call him a Conservative.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone would think Trump's death might return us to the Conservatism of the past, but I think that's flawed. The Republican party has always been on the wrong side of social politics, and there's no turning back from the stain of fascism on the party.

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[-] CaptainKickass@lemmy.world 191 points 4 months ago

They also said he was a terrible shot.

I'm not even kidding. He tried out for the school shooting club and they asked him not to come back because they considered his poor shooting and gun handling dangerous.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 111 points 4 months ago

school shooting club

Maybe they should name it something else...

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 4 months ago

No, I think that's an accurate description

[-] Snailpope@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

LMFAO! I had a feeling he was conservative. It don't know about a terrible shot, he got damn close but if his school had a shooting club he was probably still better than someone untrained but could still be bad enough not to make the team. Like when I got cut from golf, a no cut sport, half way through the first day

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago

He's a bad shot because anyone with any bit of training or even youtube experience knows to aim center mass. More chance of hitting. I picked up shooting for sport in 2017 and can hit center mass with iron sites at the distance this kid was. With my cheapo scope, I can hit out to 300 yards.

He tried lolz x-gamer headshot and failed miserably.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

Maybe he did aim for the center...

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

And that would be even worse for a stationary target.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago

He had a lot of shots, at least three, so I'm not even sure he aimed at the head. If the story about the policeman distracting him is true, it means a boy on adrenalin tried his best to keep his aim straight in a hurry. I believe hitting Trump at all was an accident.

[-] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 22 points 4 months ago

This. I'm guessing that police man actually saved trumps life because the attempt had to be carried out in a rush and with at least a mild shock still in the system.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

Trump was almost certainly wearing a vest

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 months ago

A hit to a vest definitely has a real chance to kill him. Vests distribute the impact, but they're still massive chest trauma for a 70-something dude.

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[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

No way would USSS be able to get his fat ass to wear a vest consistently, let alone the plates needed to stop a rifle round. In this heat?

Though I'm sure now he may reconsider, or be forced to.

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[-] voldage@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Imagine if his motivation was to prove he had great aim and that they did him wrong. Maybe he just wanted to become the most well known sniper-assassin in the modern world. Maybe that's the reason he didn't use scope, he wanted his memory to be that of the rifle maverick. I wonder what went through his head after he realised he missed. I mean, other than a bullet.

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 20 points 4 months ago

Maybe he was aiming at a suspiciously Antifa-looking person in the crowd and missed?

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 115 points 4 months ago

“It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Trump is the Republican candidate, but anyone young enough to actually believes in conservative talking points would not see him as a conservative candidate and would see him as a threat to the party.

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[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 79 points 4 months ago

Who's to say he didn't just want to die and take someone important out with him. In the mental state he was in at the time, he may not have even cared about politics.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 78 points 4 months ago

I was thinking there's no proof he didn't do this to impress Jodie Foster. We may never completely understand

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Narrator:

Jodie Foster was not impressed.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 10 points 4 months ago

Are we sure?

Can somebody get her on the phone please, we need to get to the bottom of this...

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 72 points 4 months ago

It was a horrible incident and there is no room for violence in politics…

That said, I am relieved to know that the shooter is neither an immigrant nor a person of color, or a trans person. And not someone on the left. The violent backlash from the right would be unbearable/unthinkable otherwise.

But, rifles are an old way of doing things, and predict that there will be more political violence through the next years.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago

And not one Republican or prominent journalist will point out that this is mostly due to the decade of rhetoric from the conservatives that political violence is the answer.

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 31 points 4 months ago

So…. Why then? Was he one of those rare conservatives that don’t like Trump? I think I’ve only ever met maybe one or two.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

There is a growing movement within conservative groups that want Trump out of the way so a more competent politician can enact their crazy goals more effectively. Nick Fuentes is one example.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

It is though any groups of people is not a monolith who perfectly toe the line with each other.

[-] Jackfinished@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

They usually don't talk about it because either they are lumped into trump supporters or attacked by the former for being a liberal pansy.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

First: As conservatives love bible quotes: Hosea 8,7: "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind." Boy, did Trump sow wind everywhere. And Thomas Crooks simply was the whirlwind this time.

Second: Each and every year, about 50,000 people in the US die from guns, and politics f-ing does not care. Because they love the money from arms manufaturers and votes from the gun nuts more than the mostly innocent people who die. But once the wrong asshole gets his ear nicked by a bullet, they suddenly fall over themselves condemning violence.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

One good deed does not redeem the entire sect

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Was it really a good deed though? Because by missing, he gave Trump a shit load of political ammunition.

Trump is going to take this crisis and abuse it for every vote it gets him, and it's gonna get him a lot.

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[-] DynoNoob@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

If Trump were to trip down the stairs and break his neck, that would be one thing. Becoming a martyr is another. And becoming a martyr while still alive is even worse.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

My money is the kid saw the 2025 agenda and despite being a conservative leaning person was still appalled at the idea people would vote for a fascist again.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

But the investigators say he “had no strongly held political beliefs”.

IOW he’s republican and they don’t want to broadcast it?

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