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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Lerios@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

like i know these people are technically meant to be our allies because they don't own the means of production, but how the fuck do you spend more than my family's annual income on fast food? how are we meant to find common ground with people who are able and happy to do this? visible-disgust

edit: turns out this is a repost. sorry. but still, i standby my disgust

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[-] Civility@hexbear.net 67 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Jason Steen isn’t middle class. He owns a massive media business and despite that, has been arrested several times because his hobbies include wage theft, posting about wage theft, bragging online about how rich wage theft has made him (see above) and drunk texting his highly educated employees taunting them about wage theft.

He’s obnoxiously ostentatiously bourgeois.

[-] YaaAsantewaa@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

Yeah reading over the article he's not middle-class at all, he's in the upper-class with that behavior

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago

Imagine spending 25 THOUSAND DOLLARS and not realizing because it didn't impact your quality of life or housing or ability to obtain food

[-] Twink@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

That's over 2k a month. I don't even make that much. :|

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Preach.

And what we do is probably 10,000x more important to humanity than whatever the fuck this ghoul does

[-] Twink@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

Oh no lol I'm a video game tester for a game which is in open beta. Maybe your job is important for the both of us.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

I don't know what the guy in this pic does but I already know your job is more important

[-] Twink@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago
[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

We can go a lot lower than that haha

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

It doesn't have to be that many times more important as much as it should not be a net negative, such as a hedge fund manager. kombucha-disgust

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A starbucks barista would be 1000 times more valuable to peoples lives than whatever shit this person could possibly be doing

people like coffee and someone has to make it, making coffee is good and based

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A starbucks barista would be 1000 times more valuable to peoples lives than whatever shit this person could possibly be doing

Multiplying zero results in zero, yeah.

EDIT:

As someone else said already, I was talking about the linked person with the humblebragging about (probably inherited/connected) wealth.

Service workers provide infinitely more value than failson scions.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

are you saying service work has zero value?

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

I think it was meant to be a humblebrag. "Oh oopsie I did a fucky wucky and flexed my dad's boat dealership credit line!" so-true

[-] triclops6@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

I'm middle class, and I think it's stupid and wasteful.

[-] rebelappliance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 11 months ago

This is why people think "oh just stop eating out" is valuable advice. They have no idea that people are trying to live with smaller incomes than what the middle class spends on just food alone. Telling an entire class of people to "just get better job" is not a solution either. This just admits that the job is required but people doing the job aren't worthy of comfort or savings.

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

Seriously. It's like, okay, I'll spend $15 less per week on food and that will magically solve everything, I guess.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago

ordering hooters food for delivery is more perverted than actually going to hooters

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Here, signs merely reflect other signs and any claim to reality on the part of images or signs is only of the order of other such claims. This is a regime of total equivalency, where cultural products need no longer even pretend to be real in a naïve sense, because the experiences of consumers' lives are so predominantly artificial that even claims to reality are expected to be phrased in artificial, "hyperreal" terms. Any naïve pretension to reality as such is perceived as bereft of critical self-awareness, and thus as oversentimental.

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

That’s not middle class that’s rich kid behavior

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

It's a failson flex. "Oh look at how I accidentally spilled all this money everywhere" maybe-later-honey

[-] nickwitha_k 30 points 11 months ago

Guy seems to be a shitty person and wage thief from other context provided in the comments. Also, terrible taste in food.

However, without that context and going by the post comment, it really seems a bit like unproductive bucket-crabbing and othering of fellow working-class people for winning the genetic lottery and not being born in poverty in a shit, hierarchical system based on inequality. Basically, to me, it seems like doing the work of promoting division in the working-class for free.

Should someone stuck under the thumb of an agricultural or meat processing plant wage-slaver think the same of yourself? World's shit enough without the in-fighting.

Dunk on this guy because he's a wage thief or has no culinary taste, not because he makes at least enough to rent a cardboard box in a nice part of Stockton.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

If he was sharing this like "hey look at this" maybe, but they say "wow I had NO CLUE"

Who the fuck doesn't realize theyve spent more than 25k in 1 year, thats more than I make even!

[-] nickwitha_k 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Solid point. Makes me think the original post was intended as something like a "humble brag". I highly doubt that anyone making less than 7 figures is not going to realize that they spent $25k.

[-] Lerios@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wasn't trying to other anyone, i was being kind of genuine: how are we as communists meant to find common ground with people so disconnected from the concept of economic hardship that they can throw money around like this? normally you can communicate your ideas to people and be understood (even by conservatives if you phrase it right) because at the end of the day, most people under capitalism are fucked over and living under capitalism sucks, but for this guy it presumably doesn't suck. how do you get it through to someone like this that the current system is unbearable? because surely it doesn't feel unbearable from where he's standing.

[-] nickwitha_k 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm a leftist (anarchist) and have experienced poverty, middle income, and various places in between. I have colleagues that absolutely don't notice that they're being fucked and have made organizing a pipe dream because of it (might be a good change to come from the LLM parasitism but I'm not holding my breath).

how do you get it through to someone like this that the current system is unbearable?

I'd suggest that, in many cases, we can't. It's like a cult for some, being in denial that the rug can be yanked out from under them inspite of numerous examples in the last decades, and they may never snap out of it until they get burned. Others may be well aware or open to learn. Best to build postive mutually-supportive community, educate, and welcome those that wish to help.

What I'd say is a good thing to keep in mind is that all working-class people, regardless of income, face some kind of struggle. Economic, health, family, or any number of other things. If it weren't known that this guy was a shit person with shit taste, I could think of a number of reasons from my experiences and those of people that I've known that could result in similar expenses.

For example, if one were a sole provider, with a disabled spouse, needing to commute 3-4 hours to afford to support their family in a high COL area, I can see such costs being accrued as it would be the only way to keep everyone fed.

That's one of the "lovely" features of the currently widespread economic systems, wherever your income lands, there's something waiting to worry about to keep you from spending too much time thinking about reorganizing society to allow everyone to benefit from technological advances, rather than a hereditary oligarchy. Solidarity is how we win.

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

Copy-pasting my comment from the previous thread:

(link to Tweet)

At first, I assumed it was satire.

Then, I went to his Twitter profile and it didn't look like satire but I couldn't understand how an editor for (what I assumed to be) a local newspaper could make enough to blow $25K/year on delivery.

But looking through the replies, I found someone link to this article

Jason Steen, the owner of hyper-local, digital media operations critics say sensationalize arrests that are minor, violent, graphic, bizarre or just embarrassing, is preparing for his own public brush with criminal and civil legal matters.

Steen's former employees at Scoop: Clarksville claim he owes tens of thousands in wages, dating to November. He's facing at least four pending civil suits. His next court date is scheduled for March 31.  

and this one

Rising comedian Josh Black has set his sights on Scoop: Nashville, the local outlet most notorious for posting mugshots of recent and embarrassing arrests. Black also takes aim at the site’s founder, Jason Steen, for recent disparaging comments made about Black women activists — and in response, Steen posted a since-deleted tweet that he would "restart" the practice of publishing victims' names and addresses.

“For some reason, Scoop: Nashville likes to attack poor and working class people,” says Black in the opening of a new video, citing the mugshot-shaming that grew the website’s brand. He adds that the website especially targets Black people, people experiencing homelessness and those struggling with substance abuse. “He’s consciously assisting in the mass incarceration of Black people.”

Black also points to the shockingly high incarceration rate in North Nashville, saying, “Scoop: Nashville is handing out a hotline number … so you can get more of them locked up.” The comedian also mentions that Steen has a criminal record as well — a felony theft charge against Steen came up during his bid for circuit court clerk in Montgomery County.

The mugshot-posting has also been a source of profit — as Black notes, the site and others owned by Steen charged money for the removal of such posts. (The options no longer appear to be on Scoop sites, though Steen’s defense of the practice out of state remains online.) Steen is also pleased with the advertising he gets from bail bond companies.

and it all started to make sense...

[-] Lerios@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

previous thread

oh fuck i've been really online lately but i still wasn't online enough ooooooooooooooh i even checked the last few pages of new before i posted this in case someone had done it first

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

No worries, it happens! meow-hug

This might be little pie-in-the-sky, but I'd love to see something like automatic OCR'd alt text for images containing text on Lemmy (with the option to correct/provide manual alt-text). Not only would it greatly improve accessibility, it could also be leveraged for repost/relevance detection.

[-] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

lemmygrad has an OCR bot that we can summon now courtesy of @CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml

But building it into lemmy would be very neat ngl and would open up things like repost detection

to try it out tag @OCRBot@lemmygrad.ml (purposefully unlinked this to not trigger it which I guess didn't work lmao)

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[-] TheTaglineToldMeTo@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

Fat Shack?? limmy-what

[-] bigmonkey@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

I can't believe anyone still uses twitter, I just tried to look this clown up but twitter keeps shitting itself and not loading anything correctly

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

What kind of sick person likes the food from Hooter's enough to buy it on Door Dash?

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Actually paying to have hooters and cracker barrel delivered????

Suddenly I feel less bad about the amount of money I spend on forty year old computers

[-] wesker 17 points 11 months ago

I probably have my own set of disagreeable vices, but this is a wild amount of cash for marked up, shit food.

[-] shukufuku@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Hey, if jason wasn't spending $3000 at chili's, who's going to help our teachers make ends meet?

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

This dumbass spends my family's restaurant budget on Applebee's alone, jfc. That, and it's delivery Applebee's.

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

This mf spent more on fast food in one year than I have in over a decade.

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

This is horribly disgusting.🤢

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

That's obscene.

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[-] OCRBot@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

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