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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 month ago

The Cage is peak trek

Never accepted Kirk and those after as real trek

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago

You better be referring to the original broadcast recorded to magnetic tape and not the abomination that is the DVD release

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 7 points 1 month ago

What about the option of the original black and white recording of ‘The Cage’ with the colour portions from ‘The Menagerie’ spliced in, as released to videotape in thr 80s?

That was the real Star Trek. Roddenberry even took it to cons in the 70s and 80s to let fans know what he really wanted to put on the air.

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[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're fooling yourself if you don't want to see the sharp decrease in quality post DS9. The best Trek series of the last 25 years is Orville ffs

[-] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 13 points 1 month ago

I'd give strange new worlds a pass as being better than Orville, but yeah, it's definitely the exception to the rule.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fair, Strange New Worlds is great

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

I don’t mind the Kelvin films. Karl Urban as Bones makes it all worth while.

They’re just popcorn flicks. Watch or don’t watch and it’s not like the Star Trek Universe is altered in any way. (Also, those movies are better than everything after Wrath of Khan, movie-wise)

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Also, those movies are better than everything after Wrath of Khan, movie-wise

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[-] data1701d@startrek.website 10 points 1 month ago

I used to think Chris Pine Kirk was better than Shatner. I now kind of feel like Pine’s the best Captain, but SNW Kirk’s the best gentlemanly lady killer kirk.

[-] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I'd argue they are better than anything after The Undiscovered Country. But yeah otherwise I agree, 2009 is one of my top trek films, and I'd rather watch it over any of the TNG movies. Sorry, not sorry.

[-] d13@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Largely agree, with a couple exceptions: Undiscovered Country and First Contact are good; Into Darkness is bad.

[-] Takeshidude@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I've taken to the term 3rd-wave Trek for the 2010s-present shows to identify the stylistic differences in production compared to shows made in the 80s-90s or 60s.

Each era is molded by the media conventions of it's time. And there I go reinventing Marshal McLuhan again: "the medium is the message"

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

What's the face for anyone who remembers that by TOS canon, the greek god Apollo is real and just got bored of Earth and fucked off to another planet?

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago
[-] reminiscensdeus@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

If it doesn't have 20+ episode seasons it's nutrek

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

NuTrek apparently began in 1973.

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[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

So season one of DS9 and voyager?

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[-] criitz@reddthat.com 16 points 1 month ago

I don't really like any Trek past DS9 Don't hate me

[-] reminiscensdeus@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago
[-] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 1 month ago

Never liked VOY, writing is poor.... Not interesting sci-fi like TNG, not a captivating story like DS9...
The Doctor is essentially the only good part. Maybe Seven of Nine, Jery Ryan is a great actress, despite the embarrassing clothing.

SNW is good, DIS is whack. PIC essentially crapped all over the past series' development, killed Hugh, Ro, Icheb, made the Federation grimdark... Monk Worf was cool tho.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Voyager's writing is inconsistent. There's some fantastic episodes... and then there's salamanders.

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[-] Corgana@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago

As long as you don't take every available opportunity to steer every single online conversation towards how you don't like a tv show then we're cool

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

"You are allowed to have your opinion so long as you don't share it"

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[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

This is the good take. Star Trek peaked at DS9 and there's yet to be a good reason to continue past it.

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[-] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

"I wish they hadn't gone and made Star Trek political!"

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[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Nu Trek is, to me, just the kelvin shit. The new shows on CBS are legit, especially lower decks.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a massive, massive red flag when someone goes the "Terran Empire/Section 31 did nothing wrong" route.

It's very common in zone chat on Star Trek Online. Some fascists just hang around Earth Spacedock all day there, posting nonstop fascist screeds, and if they're ever actually out in their ships, without fail it's "ISS" prefix with names like "AYN RAND."

Disclaimer: Yes some people play bad guys in their games, but I don't think just playing the part involves hours-long rants about why the (slurs here) need to be wiped out in zone chats.

EDIT: I think I'll add "fervent Discovery apologists, especially ones that stan for space fascists after contrived apology arcs," if only because of their repeated tendency to feel very smart to the point of undue arrogance about contrived "what if mass murdering dictators... actually good once the protagonist buddies up with them?" bad writing cliches.

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[-] mactan@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

maybe I've consumed more and more scifi over the years to compare to or maybe the later releases of trek have lowered the average in my mind but I can't help but see trek in general as solidly mid now

[-] alansuspect@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

I hadn't watched any Trek in a while and in Picard there was a scene where their ship was hit and started listing like a boat and I was like "that's not how space works!", then remembered that's the thing with Star Trek.

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[-] SGG@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

What if I say all trek is both NuTrek and OldTrek because accidental time travel

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 7 points 1 month ago

Creative fun in-universe answers are always:

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[-] data1701d@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago

Based on a real situation I encountered once: Normal Star Trek Fan: Yeh, I like Seven of Nine.

“Red flag” Star Trek Fan: I like Seven of Nine.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago

I like NuMetal tbh

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I mean, technically everything from TNG onwards would be NuTrek and Kelvin-stuff would be NuNuTrek, or rather Re-Trek, since it's a reboot.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

NuTrek started when they did a full visual reboot, including completely changing the look of the Klingons: TMP.

Then it got worse, when they followed that up with a grimdark shoot-em-up that felt nothing like Trek. These people aren't even fans of the show!

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Both panels are acceptable and objectively correct.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Broke: Discovery is NuTrek

Woke: Voyager is NuTrek

Bespoke: TNG is NuTrek

[-] bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I will always have a special place in my heart for the Kevin timeline because it was my gateway drug to the good stuff. I wound up watching all of Star Trek in chronical order enterprise to Voyager.

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