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But it might hurt the economy (climatejustice.social)
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[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Just because the joke is similar doesn't mean one is copying the other. Versions of this joke exist in a variety of forms, and it's entirely possible that each creator thought of it independently, inspired by the events of the day.

[-] OutsideBoxYouMustThink@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

This is even more on point.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago

And its like a decade old.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I once had a person unironically tell me they wanted to help curb climate change but didn't want to drive an electric car that looked like an egg.

You could just slot that right into one of these comics and it would fit.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 months ago

I would question the engineers behind an egg shaped train car as well.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

but didn't want to drive an electric car that looked like an egg.

What. Electric cars look like...an egg? Was he from a different planet‽

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, Toyota Prius, and the early Honda insights are all rather round. Especially the earlier iterations of the cars.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Yes, exactly these models, they were the ones available in the early iterations. I love my 2019 Chevy Bolt and hope to get 5 more years and 200,000 more kilometres out of it, I love it for it's insane practicality and low costs, but it does have a sort of oval shape to it that I don't prefer to a sedan or crossover.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

I remember we deliberately didn't buy an EV because there was one frequentish (regular holiday destination) road trip that we did that an EV couldn't do in a single charge. Things have changed though

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We had that discussion in my household. We travel regularly (2-3 times a year) 1000KM round trip and the Bolt gets 420KM in absolutely ideal weather. So we must charge. We would never had bought an early, pre-2018. 250KM range EV but the BOLT EV and it's 400km+ range was a game changer for us.

We had to have an attitude adjustment over it, for long trips, to learn to roll with it and be a little less in a hurry. Also to think more holistically about our car use. I wake up every day with a full (well, 80%) charge that will take me anywhere I need to go in a normal day. Sure, we need to stop and charge on the infrequent long trips, but we never have to goto a gas station. So no self-pay ads, no pumping gas in bad weather, no tempting gas station taquitos and energy drinks, no waiting in line to pay inside, and no impact to my budget by fluctuating gas prices.

Instead we park the car to charge, head to a restaurant, the library, the community swimming pool, the boutique chocolate stores and deli shops. We enjoy the trip, enjoy the downtime, and make good use of it. Sure, we would appreciate a car with more range for this trip, but we aren't about to let a small percentage of our driving experience dictate the rest.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The range we needed was 80 miles. Maybe the time is now. I think the break on such a long trip is healthy.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks to California regulatory changes, you might be able to get a plug in hybrid with that kind of range in the next model year or two.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

Probably he was thinking of something like a Twike.

[-] sleen@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago

I would drive that any day ngl.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

I would drive that if American roads weren't so crowded with oversized pickup trucks and SUVs.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

They are super expensive unfortunately

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

So car manufacturers did not want EVs as they would require radical changes, but they wanted to show governments that they are also exploring the idea. So they purposefully made ugly looking cars with very low mileage then reported "see? No one wants EVs"

Tesla really changed that image and showed that EVs can look attractive and be practical.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Elon did something right for once 😂

Actually, I secretly like how he bought twitter and nuked the platform as well. It was a toxic hellscape before he bought it and it still is now.

Starlink is kind of cool. So is paypal. And spacex.

Okay, I've got a lot to thank Elon for. Even though he is bonkers.

Although he also incited race riots in the UK and encouraged war in Ukraine... yeah nothing to get too excited for

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

To be fair I never really got why companies couldn’t bring themselves to make hybrid vehicles that just looked like normal cars. They did everything they could to make sure that electric cars remained kinda niche. This modern trend of just making existing, familiar models come with electric options is great. Even the weirdos who buy trucks are going for the Ford Lightning.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The thing I don't like about electric cars is how they're all automatics

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

One way or another, the infinite growth market capitalism demands is unsustainable.

It's just pathetic that our species demands we prove that the hard way.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Probably going to get downvoted to shit for this.

Achieving the UN SDG (that we are failing miserably at) would create around 12 Trillion in market growth over the next 7 years.

Its not just an economic problem.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

Actually not at all. 12 Trillion over 7 years means 1.7Trillion added to global annual GDP. The global economy has a GDP of a bit over 100 Trillion. So we are talking adding 1.7% growth and then stagnation. For the most part global GDP has grown by about 3%. So we are talking a low year in terms of GDP growth and then no growth at all.

As for the UN SDG part of them is to meet the most basic material needs of everybody. When poor people get money, they spend it. That is just logical, when you need food and have money, buying food makes perfect sense. At the same time better education also helps the economy a lot. Long term that would stop global population growth a lot faster and be a net positive the everybody. The other part is that renewables require a lot of investment as well, which also naturally grows GDP.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sorry, can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Do you have any evidence of this I'd love to read something like this. It would prove that it's quite possible to have a stable economy while fighting climate change we just have dragons hoarding all the wealth to do it.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I can get that for you - reference from my sustainability lecturer so will need to go dig through my references.

Its worth noting however that this if the growth for all 17 goals combined - climate change is just a small part of that.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago

We cannot prevent climate change.

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