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submitted 4 months ago by Objection@lemmy.ml to c/dredge_tank@hexbear.net

Being a lib is so easy, you can just say anything and if it's wrong, just bring up "Tianmen" square.

I hate these people so much.

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 65 points 4 months ago

US is not NATO. Sheesh.

I hate when libs pretend this is true

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 49 points 4 months ago

US wars are either an exclusively US thing or a NATO joint operation depending on which one carries more water for imperialism in the current context.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

NATO is US and its lapdogs.

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 4 months ago

I guess "whataboutism" is ok when they do it.

[-] underisk@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

im pretty sure they only throw out whataboutism when you try and draw parallels between what america does and what the state department is trying to get people outraged at.

they never use it to point out when someone is changing the subject after they've failed to defend one of their arguments.

[-] goferking0 13 points 4 months ago

It's only okay when they do it :/

[-] miz@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago

Tianmen

HOLY SHIT WE'RE DEALING WITH AN EXPERT FOLKS

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 months ago

Imagine only knowing (incorrect stuff) about two things, and you can't even spell one of them.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Average lib: smuglord

Side note, good work combatting liberalism! I see you do it all the time heart-sickle

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago

Thanks ❤️

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago

I propose a game of bingo for these recurring liberal dog whistles: Tianmen Square, Uyghurs, Holodomor, North Korea, Do you condemn HAMAS?, etc.

If they hit BINGO by naming 5 or more, then they get a prize:

Door A

spoilerPIGPOOPBALLS


Door B

spoilerhitler-detector


Door C

spoilerus-foreign-policy


Door D

spoilerbarbara-pit

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

I would drop this and tell them to F off.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"My take is the same as this conservative newspaper and CBS news' eyewitness, and the BBC's eyewitness. As for the Uyghurs my take is the same as the official UN final assessment report."

[-] underisk@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

i dont think there's any value in continuing to communicate with that person. but if you must i would just tell him if he want's to talk about china he's more than welcome to fuck off and find someone else who wants to argue about it with him. you don't have to defend any point you're not making, and if you try they'll just bring up some other bullshit gotcha they can use to justify to themselves that you're still somehow wrong despite being factually correct.

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

There's really no value in continuing to communicate with anyone. Anyone reachable has already found their way here on their own.

[-] underisk@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

You don't convince people of anything with one internet argument. Still, I think it's worth it to try and state and defend your beliefs publicly. It may or may not sway anyone but it does at least force you to examine and understand your beliefs so that you can competently defend them.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Unquestionably false. Everyone has different experiences on different timelines relative to each other. Maybe you would have been hopeless if you weren't here by now, but other people didn't come to lemmy at the same time, have the same interactions, have the same broader background, etc.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

sometimes the only thing that can get through a person's skull is a bullet

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 4 months ago

Whataboutism is only when the communists do it. When I do it, I'm a free-thinker. /s

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

They honestly are more of bots than any putin/xi bot wishes it ever could be

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago
[-] HakFoo 12 points 4 months ago

So, this?

https://www.buildingtoystore.com/en/wange-architecture-the-beijing-tiananmen-square-5218-building-blocks-toy-set-122.html

NGL, it doesn't look like a very fun kit to build. Maybe if it was the full complex rathrr than just the central building it would break the lines up more.

[-] DanComrd@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

@Objection@lemmy.ml coming in with the receipts. Fuck that lib.

phoenix-evidence

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

Lmao that’s when you know you’ve won the argument. Liberals talk a big game about being logical but always resort to sick burns and downvotes when they can no longer argue in good faith.

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Edit: Busted!

erm-this-you

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

lemmy.world.. lemmy.world never changes

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Have these people ever considered that Russia is simply looking at the west and saying “huh, so we can just do that and nothing happens to us? Don’t mind if I do.” The US doesn’t get to proclaim to be leader of the world then also be absolved of influencing other countries to be like you in all aspects. If Putin is Putler, then how is it any different than Nazi Germany being influenced by the US?

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