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Liz Cheney blocked January 6 scrutiny of Ginni Thomas, book says (www.theguardian.com)

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Liz Cheney, the Republican vice-chair of the House January 6 committee, did “all she could” to protect the rightwing supreme court justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, the political activist Ginni Thomas, by blocking an in-depth investigation of Ginni’s involvement in Donald Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election, a new book says.

In Stench: The Making of the Thomas Court and the Unmaking of America, the reporter and Democratic operative David Brock writes that “two Capitol Hill sources with personal knowledge” revealed a “dramatic truth, which might shock even some jaded Washington veterans not easily surprised by callow examples of power protecting power.

“Liz Cheney herself, the star of the hearings, doing her turn as independent-minded maverick Republican, did all she could behind the scenes to protect Ginni and Clarence Thomas and thwart the move to investigate further the implications of the Ginni Thomas texts to [Mark] Meadows”, Trump’s final White House chief of staff.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 169 points 3 months ago

I have had people tear my ass up on multiple occasions for trying to remind people that Liz Cheneys anti-trump performance does not, in fact, make her a good person.

That she is still, at her core, a republican piece of shit.. and her saying one thing that I agree with (That Trumps a threat) does not make her a good person.

I am 100% not surprised that she secretly tried to protect one of Trumps biggest anchors on the supreme court, who is vital for their 2025 goals and seizing of power.

Because she, like all republicans, are performative assholes who say whatever they think will get them more support and power.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago

I have had people tear my ass up on multiple occasions for trying to remind people that Liz Cheneys anti-trump performance does not, in fact, make her a good person.

I respect her for calling bullshit on trump, but yeah. that's like one point against many hundreds of others.. Now, if she takes trump to a pheasant hunt... welllllll we can discuss that after....

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

"I really think we should listen to what Jeremy has to say. Sure, he gets drunk and challenges children to fight him at the playground, and yes he might be a tiny bit of an arsonist, and if you're gonna nitpick then yes he stomps on pigeons in the park, but you don't understand! I saw him accidentally knock over an old lady the other day and he apologized! Not only that, he made sure she was okay! I think he's truly reformed and we should trust him now."

Also, I get why you said "pheasant" hunt and thought that was hilarious, but c'mon... If there were ever a time to bring up duck hunting, shouldn't it be now by the infamous @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also, I get why you said “pheasant” hunt and thought that was hilarious, but c’mon… If there were ever a time to bring up duck hunting, shouldn’t it be now by the infamous @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world?

I don't want to get shot at... and these people might get the wrong idea.

in any case... yes. that's exactly what I mean. She did one right thing. that doesn't make up for all the shitty crap also does.

(for those wondering... her father went to an organized pheasant hunt, as VP, and accidentally wound up shooting one of his security detail in the face. It was "just" birdshot, so he didn't die or anything. those sorts of events should be banned, though. Basically, they capture a shitload of pheasants, stage them in a space that's "safe" to shoot at them... then scare them up so they fly over as rich fucks shoot at them. What probably happened is he got target fixation while the bird flew in a path that... well... ooooppsssies)

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure it was a quail/dove shoot. It stood out for me because there aren't many parts of the country where dove hunting is a thing. But Texas? You bet!

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Wait wait wait, now you're just bungling the story tooooo much.

It was a quail hunt, not pheasant
Yes, security detail was there, but he didn't shoot any of them. He shot a lawyer and the secret service helped him
The lawyer he shot also had a heart attack from one of the pellets getting close to his heart
The secret service claim they waited an entire fucking hour before notifying the local sheriff
The sheriff said they didn't find out until the next day

What probably happened is he got target fixation while the bird flew in a path that... well... ooooppsssies

You forgot the best part of the whole "ooooppsssies":
The fucking lawyer later went on tv TO APOLOGIZE TO DICK CHENEY FOR HIS BAD PUBLICITY DUE TO GETTING SHOT IN THE FACE

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Onion timeline onion timeline

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This is the funniest thing I'm going to read all year holy shit

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

That she is still, at her core, a republican piece of shit

Seconded. I like to remind people that while in office, she voted with Trump over 92% of the time.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 17 points 3 months ago

Republicans like her, and Mitt, are only opposing Trump because he's come in and snatched up everything they and their dynasties have been trying to take for themselves for decades.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Either that, or they are trying to position themselves in a power position post-trump.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Oh, she's definitely not a lovely person politically, she wants the gop to run things but just doesn't want fascists to run the gop and do away with democracy.

Currently it's just an alliance of convenience, much like how we allied with Stalin in WW2. We can go back to fighting with conservatives after the fascist wannabes are beaten in the upcoming election. First things first, priorities are important.

[-] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Well said. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Or as that war criminal Henry Kissinger said, "there are no allies, only temporarily-shared interests."

[-] some_guy 55 points 3 months ago

So, this "good" Repub who stood up to the orange bad was furthering their corrupt court capture in the background. And the media treats her like a hero.

Ginni Thomas is a conspiratorial nutjob whose husband sits on the highest court in the country accepting bribes from billionaires and Liz Cheney protected her from scrutiny.

[-] Thann@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 months ago

I love when these awful politicians write a book about the horrible things they did, and act like they are the hero for exposing the awful truth...

You were totally on-board the fuck-everybody train, and are only calling it out because you got kicked off...

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 3 months ago

She's not the one who wrote the book.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Maybe the Cheneys are only opposing Trump because he and his people were too incompetent to pull of Jan6.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

This is why we have no accountability for the powerful.

[+] Maeve@kbin.earth -26 points 3 months ago

I've been convinced for some time the whole R-D schtick is good/bad billionaire club routine, but it's screaming into the void. The rightward sprint continues.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Where do Democrats enter into this? Liz Cheney is a Republican and so is Ginni Thomas.

[+] Maeve@kbin.earth -24 points 3 months ago

I don't know how to state it any plainer than I have for months, now. I intend to enjoy my day and not bicker with those I consider equal and friend. You know what the good/bad cop routine looks like. You can consider that in this context or not, at your leisure. Enjoy your Sunday and give Ghost a belly rub for me, if you please.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago

If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven't even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound.

Malcolm X

I would say that everything X said 60 years ago still rings true today. Having the daughter of the evilest American politician of the 90's and 00's ask for a pat on the back for sometimes criticizing Trump is insulting. Liberals will continue to drag us into fascism all in the name of "compromising" with conservatives, as if the entire party isn't ready to goose-step their way up Capitol Hill in January.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 3 months ago

I'm trying to imagine what re-education would look like, in our current environment. A violent revolution may turn against us. It seems the Cuban revolutionaries were financed, at least in part, by wealthy individuals, but in* the United States today, the fascists could very well take absolute control, and use it as a means to make our situation much more dire than it currently is. The only thing I can come up with is winning a few more open-minded wealthy individuals to heavily donate for school not within government control, but exceeds standards of government education,and clinics that are completely free, that do the same. I'm having trouble even imagining how that would work, without being shut down, trying to operate under a legal framework.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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[+] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -10 points 3 months ago

It's bad and worse. People are so worried about keeping the worse party out of office that they refuse to criticize the bad party.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The democrats are literally fine, they're not my ideal party but I'd place them on the good side of the line

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

The Democrats are not fine.

https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, I wouldn't have expected that plan to fail either if I was the DNC. Anyways, one counterexample isn't meaningful.

[+] Maeve@kbin.earth -16 points 3 months ago

I get it. People are scared and the major parties are juicing that up to their advantage and our disadvantage. The prefrontal executive functioning center is wired to take a back seat to the fight/flight/freeze/fawn instinct of the amygdala for important reasons. But feedback loops happen. I'm scared, too. And watching things go from bad to worse played into that loop, activating anger that fed right back into the loop. Now I'm calm. That doesn't mean I don't experience momentary feelings of fear and/or anger. It means I remind myself that the best decisions aren't made from that plane 6, and I need to think long term. It's going to be painful, either way. There's going to be suffering, either way. There's going to be an event horizon, either way. The point is, can I muster the courage and face it head on, because delaying the inevitable means pain and suffering will be worse the longer the delay. Am I willing to take the brunt now so the generations behind me have hope of shaping a future for themselves that sees benefits of Gen X and Boomers, on the political landscape? Because if I'm not willing to take that chance, the politicians will make sure the coming challenges weigh most heavily on the many, for the least suffering of the few.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

In the most non-judgemental way possible, I have literally no idea what you or the person you are responding to are talking about, and it smells totally delusional.

Glad you are living your best life, but there's some weird non-confrontational false equivalence that is extremely goofy here.

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