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Climate Change Is So Bad, Even the Arctic Is On Fire (archive.is)
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[-] neo@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Meanwhile sam altman is going to TSMC and telling them they need $7T worth of new factories to produce chips to support the amount of processors "Open"AI needs. Which is an insane amount of misspent resources, obviously, to solve exactly < 0.0% of the world's real problems.

And the TSMC execs scoffed at him and started calling him "Podcasting Bro"

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thats like 5 or more percent of the global GDP. More than the total assets of JPM bank. Mans can't be arsed to put near that much for this planets survival but they'd put it into that? I mean I won't be surprised if they considered but...

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

nah bro we'll solve climate change we just need fifty million more gpus bro we just need more parameters bro

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Building Deep Thought to solve the climate crisis only for it to come back and tell you that the solution is to waste fewer resources on fancy computers.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

It would probably tell em the answer is 42 and tell em they fucked up i-cant

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

tell em they fucked up

We do that all the time, but maybe it'll be more persuasive coming from one of their own computers?

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Not a chance, these people are the fucking worst

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I mean, I have a preferred solution and it ain't an AI super consciousness.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"During one meeting, a Japanese official laughed when OpenAI said it was seeking 5 gigawatts of electrical power, about a thousand times the power that an average data center consumes, a person familiar with the meeting said." Gigawatts seen-this-one Thats the consumption per year of countries like Qatar. You can't be serious. Them again they probably already use as much energy as some first world countries. Edit hold on..... Its waaaaaaaay more than that. Like 20 new zealands desolate sadness-abysmal stress

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

And the TSMC execs scoffed at him and started calling him "Podcasting Bro"

Lol glad they're smart enough to not fall to the hype. Imagine making like 5-10% of world gdp into capital investments because some guy said his friends might buy the product eventually. Like how many chips would you need to break even?

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Can I please punch every libertarian in the face who's argued against climate change, pretty please.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In a just world, so many people would be tried for crimes against humanity and libertarians would go down as the biggest laughingstocks in human history.

They advocated for human extinction because they thought they would look cool doing it.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Get in line brudda. I got next

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

These are the same people trying to paint us as “untersmench”.

I hope the history books paint oil tycoons not as cute little old white men that just couldn’t help themselves and fucked us all as collateral damage, but as megalomaniacs that wanted to play God and tried to murder everyone on earth just for the hell of it.

porky-scared-flipped: “But the munniez!”

They’re at a point where money is meaningless to them, they just want to play God, and realize they can’t buy immortality so the next best thing is that if they can’t keep living, nothing else should.

Literally the textbook definition of ‘lawful evil’.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

[-] asg101@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Anyone paying the least amount of attention to feedback loops saw this coming for 30 years or longer. Spoiler alert: we are way past most "tipping points".

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

You know it's already too late when corporate institutions that uphold the status quo are sounding the alarms.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Part of why I posted it. When bloomberg says shit is bad you know its getting harder to ignore

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

shitty burgeoise website refusing to let me in because i'm 'suspicious' and i dont feel like getting around it.

what does it say? wtf is combustible enough in the arctic to be on fire?

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's wildfires and peat fires in the Arctic circle

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

this is insane to even think about. we are truly fucked.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Try https://archive.is/loSOX

The permafrost has a lot of peat, which has been a historical source of fuel in boggy environments since prehistory. It burns well if it's dry enough and peat fires can "overwinter" in smoldering hotspots that return in the summer.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

snow, famous for its habit of spontaneous combustion

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Siberian permafrost starting to melt is gonna be the positive feedback loop that changes the time frame of climate disaster from centuries to decades if not years.

Glad to hear it's on fire. Just wait until it starts getting into the methane pockets.

[-] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

The only positive about the methane thing is that it stays in the atmosphere for around 12 years. It'll still do tons of damage, but the direct effect from the methane is pretty short lived. Finding that out made me think Venus like isn't inevitable

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

Yea but it's also 20x as potent of a greenhouse gas. That the problem with a positive feedback loop. It'll raise the temp enough to release more which will raise the temp enough to release more....

And all the while that rise in temperature makes is increasing release of cos which does stay around for way longer.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Non-paywalled link: https://archive.is/loSOX

On a side note, Bloomberg himself has been putting on climate conferences. I smell gladhanding and greenwashing but maybe I'm being too cynical and maybe billionaires are waking up to the fact that they're gonna cook, too.

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

What is the original URL? I don't want to fill out a captcha just to see what the URL of the posted article was

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