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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 19 hours ago

Not true. In my country they reported on all of it. I've been reading and watching along.

[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Same I think. Here in the UK the main two TV news channels (BBC and Sky) have extensively reported on deaths and suffering in Gaza, and now they are reporting on the situation in Lebanon

Of course there are also right-wing papers (Telegraph, Express) who give the impression that Israel is always good and everybody else is always bad, but they're just one segment of the overall media

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

Do you like not read the news ever?

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

The funny thing is AP is actually also a primary source distributor, so they actually provide their reporting to thousands of media outlets so they can report the details. Unfortunately, because news outlets these days are focused on profits, we get stuff like this:

Kinda stupid when you consider more people probably read NYT than AP and Reuters combined, despite it being a secondary source. Or they go watch/read even more biased things on stuff like Fox.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Don't be mad when opinion articles express peoples opinions. All the other shown articles are a decade old and/or opinion articles. There is room to complain, so why not do it accurately?

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

All but one of those articles are a decade old, and they’re all op-eds, not news articles per se.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago

Because the entire western world seemingly has to tip toe around Israel and let them get away with whatever they want because of some collective shame and empathy Europe and America still feel for something that happened before most people in Israel today were ever born...

The holocaust was bad...yeah. But the fact that that tragedy somehow gives the state of Israel an unlimited pass in perpetuity to be assholes is just wrong.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The holocaust was used as something with which it was somehow immoral to compare other genocides in the 00s. Thus as a tool to make those more acceptable, cause no ongoing genocide can be as bad as the holocaust, or so pro-Israeli organizations say.

That was its only role.

While the David&Goliath narrative in the 70s and 80s was used to make Israel infallible in public opinion, paving the path for Israeli intelligence widely penetrating western governments and structures.

But even this wouldn't be critical, if not for the West becoming more authoritarian gradually. Notice how the ruling structures in the West have been becoming less and less mobile, the key figures fewer and fewer, less and less transparent, and also older and older, and the concepts of right, law, constitutional law, common sense and natural right fuzzier and weaker, surrendering the reality to fallback mechanisms - as in raw power.

The less transparent a structure is, the easier it can be controlled by blackmail, personal interests and deals that the public wouldn't want if it knew about them.

Say, about USSR in the 80s - the stereotypic picture of it being some geriatric non-transparent bureacratic warmongering state with fascist policies and degrading society, - it's correct. The problem is - it just aged faster. The West was simply late by a couple decades. Those components of USSR's collapse were not conditioned by totalitarian communism in any way. Just in the West late boomers are in power, while USSR was ruled by the last pre-war generation.

Israel is just one symptom.

So this can't be solved by any conformism, arguing by the rules, proving things in courts, voting in elections. Only by bravery, strength and taking responsibility backed only by what you want and your own decision, no law, rule or vote.

"Erm akshurally, did those civilians condemn Hummus" ☝️🤓

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago

This morning I could hardly find a headline to confirm Israel invaded Lebanon. Everything was about how scary Iran is.

What the fucking fuckery fuck media? How is Iran's response to Israel's invasion more important than Israel invading? I shouldn't have to dig for 20 minutes to confirm something like that.

to be clear, the iran government is basically oil backed terrorism and human rights abuses. Yeah fuck iran.

I wouldn't trust a single thing iran says.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Quite different compared to staunch US ally Saudi Arabia.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago

I saw plenty of headlines about the invasion of Lebanon. It just happened first, so the newer headlines would be about the thing that just happened

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

These things happened hours apart. And many of the stubs behind the Iran headlines made no mention of why they would fire missiles at Israel. After today I won't be surprised when we start getting people in here who think Iran fired for no reason and Israel hasn't invaded Lebanon. It was an absolute failure of news media.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

I'm not defending the media by any stretch, just that both events got some coverage.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah I'm just mad because they know the timing matters. They know the words they use matter. We've heard them talk about this exact kind of failing in the Iraq war and covering Trump. And now we're right back there again, breathlessly repeating the administration and their ally. Calling it a "limited ground operation". They know that first impression matters and there's a whole group of people who now think Israel got rocketed for terrorist hunting.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

because when it is done against white people, fear mongering works better in western countries. also lobbies

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Only when it's convenient.

[-] Yareckt@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 day ago

I beg to differ. Channel 4 News is one of the media outlets that is more critical of Israel then any other media I know of while still beeing focused on facts. I can only recommend it though if you are prepared to see dead bodies and utterly despaired people who just lost family members.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 46 points 1 day ago

I don’t know if things are different in the US but I haven’t seen much indifference to the bombing of Palestine. I’ve seen an awful lot of mention of children killed, etc.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

They're somewhat different. Our news media doesn't properly question our security agencies (they basically stopped doing this after 9/11), and Israel is our strongest Middle East alley, so they tend to present the Israeli narrative of the war with little or no scrutiny. That being said, given the sheer amount of destruction and death caused by the Israeli bombings, our media really can't ignore the suffering of the Palestinians this time. They're still far too deferential to Israel's justification for the suffering, but they're not ignoring.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

The republican party is pushing bills through the lower branch that enshrine real antisemitism through Zionism. That's where US media and politics are at regarding the genocide.

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz -1 points 13 hours ago

Imagine feeling the urge to back either side of this thousand-year conflict and also screaming about your moral superiority in doing so.

Stop supporting monsters.

🤡

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Please provide references and evidence of conflict spanning back a thousand years. The conflict started after the Ottoman Empire collapsed and the region got divided up in a colonial experiment by the French and British.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Huh? The conflict is at least as old as 1834 (Ottoman empire fell in 1922) and they've been trading blows since well before that.

believe it or not sometimes people do a little bit of hyperbole and exaggeration.

I would never do that, not in a million years. It's literally impossible.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Replace the Israeli flag on top with an American flag and t this is more accurate. Americans moralizing about invasions and unjust wars lol

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

“waaa the consequences of my actions!”

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