Anyway, apparently Bethesda hasn't been too dissuaded by the lukewarm reception its space sim got. Pagliarulo says it's now joined Fallout and Elder Scrolls on the podium as one of Bethesda's "big three”.
What a bunch of fucking clowns. Smoked too much copium it looks like.
Saying it is in the top three IPs for a company that only has three IPs is technically correct.
Honestly, even with only three IPs i think starfield struggles to even break into the top 5
Pagliarulo says it’s now joined Fallout and Elder Scrolls on the podium
Pouring one out for Fallout and another for Elder Scrolls.
"This is, of course, a slightly wild thing for the studio that made Morrowind (its actual best game) and Skyrim (its most popular game by miles) to say"
Accurate
Fallout 3 deserves a mention as a third most relevant.
Emil, Howard, and Hines are why Bethesda can't make good games anymore. Corporate hacks that have pushed for more mundane gameplay with every new game.
They also spearheaded piecemeal DLCs and consistently try to find ways to monetize mods.
Don’t say that about godd howard 😡😡 /s
Like God said in Genesis: It just works.
I think that's ultimately it. The next TES is going to be a disaster.
In August 2023, Todd Howard described his intent behind The Elder Scrolls VI as wanting to make "the ultimate fantasy-world simulator",
That's when you should have known. TES is at heart a novelistic series that is owned by a studio whose entire style is now "short term crafting and gameplay loops occurring within a physics simulation".
The same could be said of Skyrim, but tons of people loved it and it's still a great framework for modding if Bethesda themselves don't give it a good storyline.
Skyrim had a narrative, it had stories that raised curiosity enough to engage with the gameplay loops. Some of the side quest were even pretty good, the main quest was meh.
Increasingly Bethesda seems to be building their games around gameplay loops with narrative increasingly ancillary. They’ve optimized for grind without giving a reason to grind.
This has been obvious for a few years now. I used to get shit on for voicing this opinion a couple years ago and now it seems almost universally agreed upon. Bethesda is truly shit now.
What do you mean Skyrim? Morrowind was clearly the best game they ever made.
Skyrim had their best gameplay loop, but Morrowind's writing carried the entire series. Very excited for Skywind to give me the best of both.
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I love Morriwinds memory, but the gameplay was so rough to try to get back into.
Tons of people still play Skyrim.
Something tells me that, in 10 years, few if any will still be playing Starfield.
do people play it now? never hear about it anymore.
According to SteamDB: [edit:Starfield has] around 10k every day which is about the same as Hogwarts Legacy, Bloons TD6, and No man's Sky
Which version is that? The original Skyrim (aka oldrim) isn't even purchasable on steam and hidden unless you bought it back then. But some people still play that because some old mods only support oldrim.
Special edition is the main one now. It's holding 30k very steadily since 2020 https://steamdb.info/app/489830/charts/#breakdown
Many of modders also moved to gog version, myself included. Because I can permanently version control on gog unlike stream.
I played 100 hours of Starfield. I dont remember much of it to be honest, nor am I interested in going back.
And yet I picked up Elden Ring back up like half a dozen times since release.
I don't play FO4 anymore either. I will say I appreciate the stories, but their attempts to make games you can live in just don't measure up anymore. Not when you have games like no man's land and satisfactory. We know just how comfy a game can be.
talk about smelling their own farts
Yeah.
It's so depressing.
Like you telling me out of 250 developers on Starfield, nobody is losing their shit that this project isnt at all critically acclaimed like many of their other releases?
This is the attitude that forced Blizzard to rework everything about themselves, caused FFXIV to launch in a disastrous state, and made Concord
I'd wait to see if fans are still trying to port Starfield to new engines in 20 years before I start talking about my company's "best" work.
Wanting something to be true doesn’t make it so. I played, and I even enjoyed big parts of it (after heavily modding, to be fair). I think it got more hate than it deserved, but in no reality can it be considered a really good game, let alone their best.
I really enjoyed the story missions, but the procedurally generated stuff got old fast. Im going to give a few years when all the DLCs are out and someone gives is the Wildlander treatment.
What they needed was a lot less empty planets and a lot more that looked populated (not occupied by a small outpost; populated, by a civilization).
The beauty of Skyrim (and I guess fallout, though I hated the guns so much I struggled to ever get into it) was that you could just wander if you got bored. You'd just point yourself in a random direction and see what popped out as interesting. Many of those places would be moderate sized cave systems that brought you out somewhere completely different, where you were free, again, to just pick a direction and explore.
It doesn't feel like exploration to go to an empty map with a base that you kill everything in, then backtrack back to your ship every time.
I wanted to get into outpost building in Starfield but I just can't get past the question, why am I doing it? Everything is needlessly gated three times over and I don't get any utility or story out of it.
Sounds like more "toxic positivity".
And Rings of Power is the best Tolkien adaptation.
I like starfield. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I think the amount of shit it gets is unwarranted.
I agree with you, while adding that the lack of depth, especially in space exploration, economy and combat made it that much more disappointing. Like the groundwork is there, you should be able to hire pilots or have you companions run planet bases for you, but no. At least, when I played you couldn't do that.
I was thinking the other day that people were bashing it for the space navigation and I remembered that Mass Effect didn't let you pilot shit or even pick where to go or explore a huge planet and still was so so good.
Still not attracted because what ME was an engrossing story and amazing cast, which Bethesda never ever did in any of the games I liked. So... yeah.
But I sure hope people who took the plunge will get their money's worth!
Even disregarding just how bad starfield is, Emil is the literal worst person to say this. He is completely, shockingly incompetent when it comes to his job.
dementia is a terrible disease
"New Thing Is Best Thing" is just the statement sales guys make when they're selling the New Thing.
They're going to re-release Skyrim for the thousandth time next week and claim it's also the best game they've ever made.
I wonder if there is some definition gap in what Bethesda thinks makes a good game and what make a good game in the eyes of players.
They have probably done a lot behind the scenes improvements that warrants them to say that this has been the best to work on, but clearly it's not the best to play.
Gaslighting much, are they?
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